Denis Suarez

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you're saying that it would be a blessing for football if we decided to do as little as possible against stuff like racism and homophobia because you find it tiresome and it means that you can't focus on football?

Need to discuss trans toilets and tampons before every football match.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
you're saying that it would be a blessing for football if we decided to do as little as possible against stuff like racism and homophobia because you find it tiresome and it means that you can't focus on football?

putting racism and homophobia in the same sentence... lol
 

Adversus

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you're saying that it would be a blessing for football if we decided to do as little as possible against stuff like racism and homophobia because you find it tiresome and it means that you can't focus on football?

Yea it would. Football is a global game. Attitudes towards these social issues are different around the world and by pushing them down people's throats all you risk doing is dividing people while they are doing something that can genuinely bring them together.
 

Givenchy

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I won't say anymore but lets just say, racism to me is the worst of the worst and you can still see it in almost all walks of life. back 30-40 years ago, homosexuals were treated equally as bad but today? with the whole lgbt silencing anyone who disagrees? i have zero sympathy

I guess a whole barrage of 'BIGOT! HES A BIGOT! asshole, ignorant fool!' but i honestly don't care, we all have different opinions. i have a friend i've known since childhood who is now gay and hes a normal guy, nothing different about him. do i agree with it? no. do i treat him any different? ofcourse not. he likes the same music as me, watches football, the only thing different is he prefers cock and i like pussy. is that really worth telling the world about?
 
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BusiTheKing

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Yea it would. Football is a global game. Attitudes towards these social issues are different around the world and by pushing them down people's throats all you risk doing is dividing people while they are doing something that can genuinely bring them together.

you forgot "and that's why trump won"
 

FCB1987

Banned
I won't say anymore but lets just say, racism to me is the worst of the worst and you can still see it in almost all walks of life. back 30-40 years ago, homosexuals were treated equally as bad but today? with the whole lgbt silencing anyone who disagrees? i have zero sympathy

I guess a whole barrage of 'BIGOT! HES A BIGOT! asshole, ignorant fool!' but i honestly don't care, we all have different opinions. i have a friend i've known since childhood who is now gay and hes a normal guy, nothing different about him. do i agree with it? no. do i treat him any different? ofcourse not. he likes the same music as me, watches football, the only thing different is he prefers cock and i like pussy. is that really worth telling the world about?

I would disagree. The world is generally more accepting of different races than homosexuality today.

You think an openly gay person could become US president or that a famous athlete could come out without receiving 10x more abuse than the average black athlete does?
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
I would disagree. The world is generally more accepting of different races than homosexuality today.

You think an openly gay person could become US president or that a famous athlete could come out without receiving 10x more abuse than the average black athlete does?

Race is more of an identity, its agreed everywhere its not a choice. homosexuality is a sexuality, which is a small part of who you are. like i said, my friend is gay, fucking another dude is a foreign concept to me which i have zero interest in, he likewise has no interest in having sex with a woman. if i go to a football match, im there to watch football as a form of escapism, why do i need to know how people have sex in their private time? you can say 'well they suffered for years and now they are showing everyone how happy they are' but is that really it? in the UK, we see Raheem Sterling racially abused, Chelsea fans racially abusing people on a train, Koulibaly in Italy racially abused the other week, heck even racism aimed at jews but theres nothing about gays, infact the players wear rainbow laces to support them. imho its very wrong to compare that to racism

if a gay person became president of the US he/she would be celebrated from almost every corner of the world bar the arab countries. US athletes and people like Frank Ocean in music have come out as gay and its arguably made them MORE popular. most of the west is tolerant towards the lgbt community and its time they take the fight to the middle east if their crusade is just.

anyways lets end the topic here. we all have different views and im not trying to offend fellow barca fans. Denis can wear his makeup, lets just hope hes sold and not another loan
 

FCB1987

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Race is more of an identity, its agreed everywhere its not a choice. homosexuality is a sexuality, which is a small part of who you are. like i said, my friend is gay, fucking another dude is a foreign concept to me which i have zero interest in, he likewise has no interest in having sex with a woman. if i go to a football match, im there to watch football as a form of escapism, why do i need to know how people have sex in their private time? you can say 'well they suffered for years and now they are showing everyone how happy they are' but is that really it? in the UK, we see Raheem Sterling racially abused, Chelsea fans racially abusing people on a train, Koulibaly in Italy racially abused the other week, heck even racism aimed at jews but theres nothing about gays, infact the players wear rainbow laces to support them. imho its very wrong to compare that to racism

if a gay person became president of the US he/she would be celebrated from almost every corner of the world bar the arab countries. US athletes and people like Frank Ocean in music have come out as gay and its arguably made them MORE popular. most of the west is tolerant towards the lgbt community and its time they take the fight to the middle east if their crusade is just.

anyways lets end the topic here. we all have different views and im not trying to offend fellow barca fans. Denis can wear his makeup, lets just hope hes sold and not another loan

"Theres nothing about gays" because no gay player is willing to come out.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
"Theres nothing about gays" because no gay player is willing to come out.

gay players have come out, there was one in the US and hes still playing. is it possible maybe most footballers aren't actually gay? or do we have to invent one so a group feels included? and what does prefering sex/love with men have to do with kicking a football around the pitch? why do i need to know how a player likes his sex after the match? again, its not an identity, being straight isn't an identity.

the players are wearing rainbow laces, rainbow armbands etc BTsport, skysports have their logo in rainbow colouring, don't you think that would provoke the 'homophobes' to hurl abuse?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...liam-davis-have-not-had-one-problem-football/

there will always be slurs aimed at people because some people are just assholes, even with laws you cant stop them. I like to think though if someone was to shout abuse at a player the security would take him away, clearly racism falls on deaf ears as we saw with Sterling
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
you're saying that it would be a blessing for football if we decided to do as little as possible against stuff like racism and homophobia because you find it tiresome and it means that you can't focus on football?
Do exactly what? If you're such a rights activists then apply it where it counts. Go to other regions of world besides West, where minority groups are coddled like never before, and fight your good fight. Racism and homophobia is till big everywhere aside from Western world. Virtue signalling by using every possible social event as platform for teary eye platitudes doesn't help gays, who get stoned to death in middle east.

I want sjw political shit gone from football, because it has proven to ruin other areas of entertainment, like movies, computer games, comic books, the huge parts of fucking internet even etc. Whenever something sa vehicle for sjws to use for their emotional gratification of being the goody-goody world savers and feeling all warm and fuzzy inside, it deteriorates, because normal people just don't want this sanctimonious hypermoralizing shoved down their throats as it's already everywhere around as it is. Just look at NFL and the retarded kneeling campaign. It doesn't even make sense most of the time and turns people away, because they don't want political discourse being played out in their sportsball show. And it's not like you'll make everyone love LGBTWYOCHSNA cause by dressing everything in rainbow flags. More like vice versa.

It's funny that it was fundie christian conservatives that were trying to infuse everything with their sense of morality and finger wiggling in the past, now the supposed libruls and them are swiching places it seems.
 
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