Diego Costa

[pEllee]

Maybe you don't. But the world is different today. And I can say, being brazilian, that the love/pride for the country is not estimulated a lot here. And he chose the nt that is making him feel valued.
I also don't think this happen that often(not yet anyway). And honestly, the only loss for the Brazil nt to date, to me, was Deco. I rather Diego chooses where he wants to play, than rfef and cbf go on about it, for political reasons. I'm sure Scolari wouldn't have called Diego, if not for Spain showing interest. He didn't like Costa in the games he played.

Well, we've already had this discussion and I don't want to repeat myself but I guess I'll have to.

Basically, as I explained I do have a romantic view of international football. I do want the players to play for the country they grew up and got their eduaction in. If circumstances are different, I want them to chose a country where they feel like they belong. If they feel like they really do belong in a different country, which it may well be in Costa's case then I'm fine with it. However, he did in fact play twice for Brazil. I doubt he really cares about Spain then...

Conclusion? He wants international football. Most footballers do, he just doesn't seem to care which country it is for.

Hell, even I could, if I were good enough chose between two nations. I have a parent who's from a different country but I don't have a connection to that country besides that.

I'd rather be without international football than to play for some other country just because I want to feel the excitement of a tournament. But that's me. I respect your opinion but I have my own way of looking at it.

 

[Flavia]

Well, we've already had this discussion and I don't want to repeat myself but I guess I'll have to.

Basically, as I explained I do have a romantic view of international football. I do want the players to play for the country they grew up and got their eduaction in. If circumstances are different, I want them to chose a country where they feel like they belong. If they feel like they really do belong in a different country, which it may well be in Costa's case then I'm fine with it. However, he did in fact play twice for Brazil. I doubt he really cares about Spain then...

Conclusion? He wants international football. Most footballers do, he just doesn't seem to care which country it is for.

Hell, even I could, if I were good enough chose between two nations. I have a parent who's from a different country but I don't have a connection to that country besides that.

I'd rather be without international football than to play for some other country just because I want to feel the excitement of a tournament. But that's me. I respect your opinion but I have my own way of looking at it.

I don't think diego's case is that simple. After all, he was called by Scolari to play the next friendlies for brazil. But still preferred to go with spain.
What I posted earlier about scolari not rating him is only my perception of all that has happened since costa played for the br nt.

And if you really want to blame somebody, players cannot be the only ones to blame. It's the nt's that seek players, ask them if they'd like to play for them, when they're not good enough for their original countries or any other reason. Vdb called Costa because right now spain has a problem in the cf department. Had Vdb not shown interest, nothing would be happening.

 

[Jenks]

How can you blame the national teams over the players? Ultimately it's the players that decide. If you're not good enough to play for your country, tough shit, get better, but don't go running to another country just because you can.

 

[Flavia]

How can you blame the national teams over the players? Ultimately it's the players that decide. If you're not good enough to play for your country, tough shit, get better, but don't go running to another country just because you can.

So it's ok for the nt's to fish for players they need to get stronger, but if the player agrees, he's the one doing something wrong? Riiight.

 

[Jenks]

I wouldn't call it "OK", but the players are to blame far more than the FA's IMO. It's them that ultimately decides whether to make themselves available to their country or not.

 

[Flavia]

I wouldn't call it "OK", but the players are to blame far more than the FA's IMO. It's them that ultimately decides whether to make themselves available to their country or not.

Most players that change nt's are not considered or wanted by their country. That's why some do it. I really see nothing wrong with that, but your logic is flawed. It goes both ways. If VdB didn't want Costa, there'd be nothing he could do about it.

 

[DonAK]

This is absolutely ridiculous;

BREAKING: CBF (Brazilian Football Federation) says they'll try to remove Diego Costa Brazilian nationality after the player chose Spain!

 

[Flavia]

This is absolutely ridiculous;

BREAKING: CBF (Brazilian Football Federation) says they'll try to remove Diego Costa Brazilian nationality after the player chose Spain!

Indeed ridiculous. And a bit xenophobe. Scolari trained Portugal, I don't remember anyone complaining about it. same with Deco, Pepe and many other players.

 

[DonAK]

Indeed ridiculous. And a bit xenophobe. Scolari trained Portugal, I don't remember anyone complaining about it. same with Deco, Pepe and many other players.

Exactly! Ok, they can try to block his move to Spain, but citizenship? that's way too extreme.

 

[Flavia]

He made a statement about choosing Spain, to atleti's home page:

"It was a difficult decision for all involved, to decide between the country of my birth and the country that has given me everything, which is Spain
I have considered it and the right thing is to play for Spain because here is where I have achieved everything.
All that I have in my life has been given to me by this country, who I have a very special affection for. Here I feel appreciated for what I do every day and feel the love of the people.
I want people to understand that at no moment have I turned down Brazil. That is not how I see it. I simply feel valued here, where I have made my career. All that I am I owe to this country.

It has been a well-thought out decision, but there has been no rejection. I have family in Brazil, it is where I was born and where I will live when I stop playing football. Hopefully people will understand and respect that.
Not everyone gets to defend this shirt. It is an honour, something huge in the life of a footballer. From when Del Bosque calls me and I can play five, 10 or 15 minutes, I will give everything because that is what I am.

In my life I have always worked to give everything in every team and with the Spanish national team I will give anything because they are the team of the country that has given me everything. I hope to contribute somehow.
Negotiations for which country? One of the things that came to mind is the importance of the group. It is the thing most valued in a changing room and for the performance of a team.
I made it clear to those who spoke with me and the Coach that the important thing was the group.
If the group agreed and thought it was the right decision for the good of the group, I would be delighted."

 

[barcanuck]

I don't get all the fuss, just let the guy play for Spain already.

 

[Jenks]

A nice spin he put on it. If he were first choice for Brazil, or if Spain were shite, would he be playing for them because Spain gave him everything? I suspect not.

 

[Flavia]

A nice spin he put on it. If he were first choice for Brazil, or if Spain were shite, would he be playing for them because Spain gave him everything? I suspect not.

Would Spain want him if he was bad?

The thing is cbf, rfef, FIFA and most fa's are corrupt and full of it, nowadays. Politics everywhere. Love for country and such mattered on the 50's, maybe till the 70's. It's been business for a long, long time.

 

[Jenks]

It doesn't make it OK though, and the rule could easily be changed. I know that I'll be against Januzaj playing for England no matter how good he gets.

 

[Flavia]

It doesn't make it OK though, and the rule could easily be changed. I know that I'll be against Januzaj playing for England no matter how good he gets.

People from cbf are claiming Costa was heavily pressured by the rfef. And that's why they'll try to stop him from playing for spain. Another branch from cbf wants to take away his Brazilian nationality.

It's naive to think he just got a phone call from VdB, and then made a decision. The players get harassed, enticed, allured, whatever you wanna call it.