Edinson Cavani

[Theconomist]

Except Ibra needs everything to go through him to showcase his full brilliance. Try to play him in the typical striker role, like a Falcao or Cavani or Higuain, and you're in for a disappointment. He needs the team to be built around him, even if it isn't he'll just slow up play and force the game to revolve around him. Don't get me wrong, I love Ibra, but for a striker's role? I'd rather have Falcao or Cavani any day.

And your argument about Falcao being excellent in only the past three years as opposed to Ibra is as invalid as it gets. For one thing, you obviously haven't followed Falcao long enough or before moving to Porto. It's just the media finding out about his existance all of a sudden after the consecutive Europa trophies. And guess what, Falcao is 5 years younger than Ibra, so wtf are you on about?

2005–2009 River Plate 90 (34)
2009–2011 Porto 51 (41)
2011– Atlético Madrid 49 (42)

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[PearLBLacK]

Yeah, and by his 26th year Ibra had 81 goals in 184 games, across all competitions for club and country. That's from 2002/2003 to 2006/2007. Falcao by his 26th year has 117 goals in 190 games. Now tell me who has the better ratio.

 

[La Furia]

Are you talking about pure goalscoring or who is a better player?

Because Falcao's overall game is somewhat underrated but his claim to fame is being the best finisher in the game right now. Ibra is the better overall player yes, but Falco being able to score even when detached from controlling the ball is what makes him (and to a lesser extent Cavani) what he is. We all saw what happened when you put Ibra next to Messi.

 

[PearLBLacK]

How does that differ from what I said? Falcao is the better goalscorer/finisher. Ibra might have a greater skill set overall but that also comes with the need for a more specific system to accommodate him. And like you said, Falcao's overall game is overrated, he's not exactly a static Gomez with no skills other than predatory instincts and finishing.

 

[La Furia]

How does that differ from what I said? Falcao is the better goalscorer/finisher. Ibra might have a greater skill set overall but that also comes with the need for a more specific system to accommodate him. And like you said, Falcao's overall game is overrated, he's not exactly a static Gomez with no skills other than predatory instincts and finishing.

I was basically agreeing with you, I was just clarifying to me, Ibra is the better player than Falcao in some abstract sense of who has more weapons, but Falcao is the better "goalscorer".

 

[La Furia]

How does that differ from what I said? Falcao is the better goalscorer/finisher. Ibra might have a greater skill set overall but that also comes with the need for a more specific system to accommodate him. And like you said, Falcao's overall game is overrated, he's not exactly a static Gomez with no skills other than predatory instincts and finishing.

I was basically agreeing with you, I was just clarifying to me, Ibra is the better player than Falcao in some abstract sense of who has more weapons, but Falcao is the better "goalscorer".

It's also important to note that Falcao at River Plate played frequently in the midfield, especially under Simeone.

 

[PearLBLacK]

Ah, I see. Btw, I meant to say Falcao's overall game is underrated, not overrated

 

[Deco 20]

Are you talking about pure goalscoring or who is a better player?

Because Falcao's overall game is somewhat underrated but his claim to fame is being the best finisher in the game right now. Ibra is the better overall player yes, but Falco being able to score even when detached from controlling the ball is what makes him (and to a lesser extent Cavani) what he is. We all saw what happened when you put Ibra next to Messi.

Mario Gomez is probably even better, but he's incredibly rubbish at everything else.

 

[Deco 20]

Ibrahimovich eats both him and Falcao for breakfast. Falcao has been playing really well for the past 3 years.
Ibra has been doing the same and more for the past decade.
Cavani is a very good striker but I prefer Van Persie to him, he has more finishing accuracy.

Ibra only really started playing well in 2004, and then not very consistently. And as PearLBlack said, he's much older. Falcao was 16 years old a decade ago

 

[La Furia]

Mario Gomez is probably even better, but he's incredibly rubbish at everything else.

But that's why Falcao is better, because even when you are talking about nothing but goalscoring, it's significant that Falcao can actually dribble the ball instead of tripping over his own feet like Gomez would. Both are very close when it comes to nothing but standing in the box with their backs to the net waiting for a cross or through ball, at which point every other strength Falcao has over Gomez comes into play. The only advantage Gomez has is height.

 

[Aryagorn]

But that's why Falcao is better, because even when you are talking about nothing but goalscoring, it's significant that Falcao can actually dribble the ball instead of tripping over his own feet like Gomez would. Both are very close when it comes to nothing but standing in the box with their backs to the net waiting for a cross or through ball, at which point every other strength Falcao has over Gomez comes into play. The only advantage Gomez has is height.

And Falcao doesn't choke when the stakes are high

 

[abual3bed1]

I love this man. Not saying that he's better than Falcao but I prefer Edinson to el Tigre.

 

[abual3bed1]

aaaaand he completes his hattrick.

 

[Deco 20]

I heard that he did pretty well vs Torino

 

[Ode to Django]

He got himself a brace, but gave Torino a penalty.

He wen on a big scoring drought before this game. But still had a solid season.