Erling Haaland

[feggydinho]

Mbappe is the better all round 0layer but *d take Haaland anyday. Mbappe is toxic. Haaland just seems to have a better mentality.

Can't solely blame Mbappe for his toxicity, PSG also contributed to that.

 

[TheStig]

He is unlucky to play for a small country while Mbappe plays for France. In EURO/WC tournaments years Mbappe will have an advantage over him regarding the ballon d'or.

It goes the other way too. Nobody will talk shit about Haaland's failures with Norway but they will shit on Mbappe's failures with the stacked France squad.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

It goes the other way too. Nobody will talk shit about Haaland's failures with Norway but they will shit on Mbappe's failures with the stacked France squad.

Messi won in 2010 ballon dor, failed with argentinia

Ronaldo won in 2014 ballon dor, failed with Portugal

for me it looks like nt tournaments are more a bonus, if you win them you will probably win the ballon dor but if you fail only club achievements are important

it only counts though if you are the superstar of the team

 

[TheStig]

True but I don't think that Mbappe will win much with France. 1 or maybe 2 trophies until the end of his career. France has a lot of talent but that talent doesn't have a lot of brains.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

True but I don't think that Mbappe will win much with France. 1 or maybe 2 trophies until the end of his career. France has a lot of talent but that talent doesn't have a lot of brains.

1/2 big trophies could bring him 1/2 more ballon dors. Imo team is good but coach is bad, a good coach would probably destroy nearly every team with France.

 

[Gnidrologist]

I much doubt that. They would fall apart defensively playing attacking football just like other african teams do.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

1/2 big trophies could bring him 1/2 more ballon dors. Imo team is good but coach is bad, a good coach would probably destroy nearly every team with France.

I thought they changed Bdor terms so it's more focused on personal success than team?

It's for the best footballer, not for the best team.

 

[TheStig]

They are talented but it's a bit overrated. For now they have great forwards but Benz is old, their midfield is not creative, they have good centerbacks but fullbacks are nothing special and the goalkeeper is meh. Of course they can win the WC but they don't stand out. I think France has a lot of very good footballers, probably most in the world but not many of them are top level. It doesn't matter that you have 200 players in the best leagues if only 11 can play. On top of that they have an idiot coach and the players don't look like geniuses as well.

 

[Zidane82]

I thought they changed Bdor terms so it's more focused on personal success than team?

It's for the best footballer, not for the best team.

Yet Luka Modrić managed to win ..

 

[Andresito]

Yet Luka Modrić managed to win ..

Nice copy paste of Luka's name dawg. Croatia reached the final, Norway most likely will never go that far. WC matters heavily for Ballon d'Or.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

I thought they changed Bdor terms so it's more focused on personal success than team?

It's for the best footballer, not for the best team.

in theory yes, let's see if this works

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

Yet Luka Modrić managed to win ..

They changed it recently

 

[Bulgroz]

They are talented but it's a bit overrated. For now they have great forwards but Benz is old, their midfield is not creative, they have good centerbacks but fullbacks are nothing special and the goalkeeper is meh. Of course they can win the WC but they don't stand out. I think France has a lot of very good footballers, probably most in the world but not many of them are top level. It doesn't matter that you have 200 players in the best leagues if only 11 can play. On top of that they have an idiot coach and the players don't look like geniuses as well.

Which NT has 11 WC players exactly?

 

[TheStig]

Nobody, I didn't say someone does. Just that I don't see them as stand out favorites for the WC.

 

[feggydinho]

They are talented but it's a bit overrated. For now they have great forwards but Benz is old, their midfield is not creative, they have good centerbacks but fullbacks are nothing special and the goalkeeper is meh. Of course they can win the WC but they don't stand out. I think France has a lot of very good footballers, probably most in the world but not many of them are top level. It doesn't matter that you have 200 players in the best leagues if only 11 can play. On top of that they have an idiot coach and the players don't look like geniuses as well.

France has good players but the coach pattern is their main issue.