Ernesto Valverde - V1

[henias]

When we draw = Manager's undefeated, GENIUS, players nothing to do with it
When we win = Again, Manager's a fking genius, Messi? Who's that?
When we lose = Players fucking terrible, Messi not doing his job, Suarez fucked up, lazy ass players, dont blame the manager, his squad is not good enough

When we manage to scrape through the CL, Manager's a fking genius

When we get dominated in the CL = Squad not good enough, double is enough, dont blame him. Only way we will win the CL is spend another 400 Mil but.. but Pep is the only chequebook manager.

But, always remember, UNDEFEATED. (5 draws the last 8 games if not for Messi)

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

Valverde would probably play Gomes over a 21 year old messi because Gomes adds more defenseev stuhbility or something.

 

[JamDav1982]

When we draw = Manager's undefeated, GENIUS, players nothing to do with it
When we win = Again, Manager's a fking genius, Messi? Who's that?
When we lose = Players fucking terrible, Messi not doing his job, Suarez fucked up, lazy ass players, dont blame the manager, his squad is not good enough

When we manage to scrape through the CL, Manager's a fking genius

When we get dominated in the CL = Squad not good enough, double is enough, dont blame him. Only way we will win the CL is spend another 400 Mil but.. but Pep is the only chequebook manager.

It is more or less the exact opposite of that and all on Valverde when lose or dont play well and all on players when win.

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

He hasnt 'run Iniesta into the ground' so nothing to justify.

Iniesta’s injury says otherwise.

 

[LeeRomeno]

When we draw = Manager's undefeated, GENIUS, players nothing to do with it
When we win = Again, Manager's a fking genius, Messi? Who's that?
When we lose = Players fucking terrible, Messi not doing his job, Suarez fucked up, lazy ass players, dont blame the manager, his squad is not good enough

When we manage to scrape through the CL, Manager's a fking genius

When we get dominated in the CL = Squad not good enough, double is enough, dont blame him. Only way we will win the CL is spend another 400 Mil but.. but Pep is the only chequebook manager.

But, always remember, UNDEFEATED. (5 draws the last 8 games if not for Messi)

This would be true if you posted it on reddit. Here it is completely opposite.

 

[JamDav1982]

Iniesta’s injury says otherwise.

No it doesnt.

The fact he has rotated Iniesta a fair bit recently and rarely plays him 90 mins says otherwise.

 

[ronniecro]

i will think twice before i predict game with more than 1 goal scored by us,seems like girona was anomaly

 

[pepi]

About Piques injury https://streamable.com/222ws

 

[Hamzah]

The majority on this forum are naive. They expect a manager to walk in and play pep era football even though the team was in crisis, and are complaining about winning. We'd all like to play nice football but in the short term stabilising the ship and getting back to winning ways is what counts and valverde has done that. He improved the defence and got the squad norale and mentality back.

Starting from next season, Dembele and coutinho will be integrated and there may be more additions. Barca can go back to playing nice football building in the winning foundation of this seasons work.

 

[Morten]

Absolutely not mate. Prime example of what the lack of sufficient coaching and managerial flexibility does was manifesting itself in Madrid all autumn with quotable gold along the lines of "football is a fickle beast" or "sometimes you don't understand this sport". But it doesn't surprise me this rhetoric still exists. It's the lead argument of people who discount anything Zidane ever did in the past 2.5 years. Tiresome to refer to at this point.
[MENTION=22412]henias[/MENTION]
I know nothing about what's being written on this forum, I barely read the Barca sections. It tires me to hear contradicting stances and constant freakshow presented by the likes of that Dembele guy.

What's your argument anyway? Valverde can make bad decisions. How many long term bad calls has he made so far?
[MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION]
Had Valverde not decide to switch to 2 strikers you'd be playing some scrub on the wing to replace the Neymar/Dembele hole. And even if the latter was fit, you'd be waiting months through adaptation just like you're waiting months for Semedo to learn his job. Had he not made that call you'd be playing an inferior version of the old top-heavy setup that was found out by multiple teams even last season. He kept you fresh and dangerous through a trying time and vaulted you into a solid leader position through almost no adjustment effort. Plus he made you balanced at the back with no leader.

How the fuck is a draw a bad result? And an unearned one at that? There are games you shouldn't be getting anything from in every season, because of its length and the toll it takes on bodies and minds, and not losing them is a skill in itself. You'd prefer to lose them? That's Paco Jemez shit right there.

No player gets back to form on his own. Absolutely never. It's always through a coaching decision, either keeping him outfield or benching. Valverde made a correct call. If he benched him you could be looking at his final season given looming Griezmann replacement.

Also, investing is important at this level no matter how much you spend. Even better if the investments are 25 and under.

Thats nice and all, but i have proof of what im saying. Barca won titles without an actual coach whatsoever, proving that they dont need anyone to coach them, and that any coach that comes in can just tell them do their thing, and they will. The only Barca coach i rate is Pep, the rest are just there to make some subs or whatever, they had very little to do with Barcas success.

 

[JamDav1982]

Thats nice and all, but i have proof of what im saying. Barca won titles without an actual coach whatsoever, proving that they dont need anyone to coach them, and that any coach that comes in can just tell them do their thing, and they will.

That makes no sense.

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

With Iniesta out and Coutinho unavailable, we are going to lose against Chelsea unless EV mans up and starts Dembele.

EV has made some incredibly stupid decisions lately that could end up costing us in the CL.

 

[Hamzah]

Does it really take a Madrid supporter to remind you all reddit-worthy morons criticising a manager who made you undefeated in 2 major competitions, 8 points clear in the league in March and secured a Copa final?

This current crop of users of this forum is cancer-inducing.

Totally agree, they don't live in reality at all

 

[serghei]

[MENTION=5226]Wolfe[/MENTION], many of the changes he made were good. Most of them were asked by many users on this forum after we lost Neymar, including the 2 striker system as it was clearly a viable solution that would allow both Messi and Suarez to play centrally and leave the flanks to be used by overlapping FBs. Everybody is saying that he's done well this season in terms of results, but the most crucial part of it is just coming up, and lately the team is been carried by Messi more than in any prior season.

He's improved some things, at the cost of weakening others. Result-wise, he's done well, but the football we play is worse than in many previous seasons. Jury's still out. Winning La Liga is mandatory when Madrid fail to live up to the standard.

 

[henias]

The majority on this forum are naive. They expect a manager to walk in and play pep era football even though the team was in crisis, and are complaining about winning. We'd all like to play nice football but in the short term stabilising the ship and getting back to winning ways is what counts and valverde has done that. He improved the defence and got the squad norale and mentality back.

Starting from next season, Dembele and coutinho will be integrated and there may be more additions. Barca can go back to playing nice football building in the winning foundation of this seasons work.

No one's expecting him to play Pep's football.

Coutinho is pretty much integrated and can replace Iniesta when the need arises. Only Dembele have been sidelined too much.