Ernesto Valverde - V1

[Hamzah]

With Iniesta out and Coutinho unavailable, we are going to lose against Chelsea unless EV mans up and starts Dembele.

EV has made some incredibly stupid decisions lately that could end up costing us in the CL.

Barca were never going to win CL with the holes in the squad and after the disaster state lucho left the team in, the fact it's even considered a possibility is saying something. Barca were not supposed to win the liga this season either but they are, comfortably

 

[JamDav1982]

[MENTION=5226]Wolfe[/MENTION], many of the changes he made were good. Most of them were asked by many users on this forum after we lost Neymar, including the 2 striker system as it was clearly a viable solution that would allow both Messi and Suarez to play centrally and leave the flanks to be used by overlapping FBs. Everybody is saying that he's done well this season, but the most crucial part of it is just coming up, and lately the team is been carried by Messi more than in any prior season.

He's improved some things, at the cost of weakening others. Result-wise, he's done well, but the football we play is worse than in many previous seasons. Jury's still out. Winning La Liga is mandatory when Madrid fail to live up to the standard.

It is not all down to Madrid and Barca still have to go out there and win the games.

Barca have also contributed to Reals season.

Where Barca is now to where seen as being at start of season Valverde deserves a lot of credit.

Not all about Real either when have a team in league like Atletico that can challenge.

 

[serghei]

Dembele doesn't fit Valverde's pragmatic, often defensive style.

It is not all down to Madrid and Barca still have to go out there and win the games.

Barca have also contributed to Reals season.

Where Barca is now to where seen as being at start of season Valverde deserves a lot of credit.

Not all about Real either when have a team in league like Atletico that can challenge.

If we're talking about expectations, everytime Madrid is weak, we need to win the league, simply because we're the only huge team in the competition. A very weak Madrid means La Liga is becoming a bit like Bundesliga, with Barca being Bayern.

Atletico is good, but they're still not a very big team. Have a limited budget, and just a couple of class players.

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

Barca were never going to win CL with the holes in the squad and after the disaster state lucho left the team in, the fact it's even considered a possibility is saying something. Barca were not supposed to win the liga this season either but they are, comfortably

We’re not likely to win it but we should at least be getting past Chelsea. Thanks to Valverde’s stupidity though, we won’t.

Does it really take a Madrid supporter to remind you all reddit-worthy morons criticising a manager who made you undefeated in 2 major competitions, 8 points clear in the league in March and secured a Copa final?

This current crop of users of this forum is cancer-inducing.

Let’s see if you’re still singing the same tune when this crappy Chelsea side knocks us out of the CL thanks to Valverde’s moronic decisions. Or we somehow advance and get pummeled yet again.

Oh wait, that’s what you want.

 

[MagIX]

We’re not likely to win it but we should at least be getting past Chelsea. Thanks to Valverde’s stupidity though, we won’t.

I hope we go through, because I am a barca fan.

Bad day for you today give that we have won against ATM

 

[Joan]

Let’s see if you’re still singing the same tune when this crappy Chelsea side knocks us out of the CL thanks to Valverde’s moronic decisions. Or we somehow advance and get pummeled yet again.

Can you see the future?

We surely won't get pummeled like previous seasons, not saying we might not be out...

 

[JamDav1982]

Dembele doesn't fit Valverde's pragmatic, often defensive style.



If we're talking about expectations, everytime Madrid is weak, we need to win the league, simply because we're the only huge team in the competition. A very weak Madrid means La Liga is becoming a bit like Bundesliga, with Barca being Bayern.

Atletico is good, but they're still not a very big team. Have a limited budget, and just a couple of class players.

Budget is irrelevant really it is about the quality of sides and Atletico are still strong. How long that can last for who knows.

Again Barca have won the games to open up the gap to Real and have beaten them all of which has contributed to Reals season.

Valverde deserves credit for Barca being top and clear having done a good job to get there.

 

[Joan]

What's funny is that, the day EV probably sealed the league, many are calling for his sacking...

 

[serghei]

What's funny is that, the day EV probably sealed the league, many are calling for his sacking...

Nobody is really calling for his sacking. People just don't want to see Barca playing defensive on Camp Nou and parking the bus against teams we can beat by playing good football. That's what it is and nothing else.

 

[Lelouch vi Britannia]

What's funny is that, the day EV probably sealed the league, many are calling for his sacking...

Because his decisions will result in yet another laughably bad CL campaign. Not to mention that if he keeps treating Dembele like this, we could lose him the way we lost Thiago...

 

[JamDav1982]

Nobody is really calling for his sacking. People just don't want to see Barca playing defensive on Camp Nou and parking the bus against teams we can beat by playing good football. That's what it is and nothing else.

Barca outplayed Atletico and played well in first half.

The second half the players were either tired or EV anticipated them getting tired and sat deeper.

Second half was shit to watch but it was the better performance in first half that won it.

 

[ini4ever]

Why people assume it has to be only playing either defensively or offensively that can bring you trophies lol, If Valverde can be successful with defensive tactics that's great and I'd myself be surprised too due to Barca nature where players use to play offensive and fans demanding that.
I myself don't like this conservative approach from Valverde, he can finish off the game most of the time but he won't and this might going to be dangerous in cl k.o phase.
Anyways I call a season success if he manages to have a good run in both league and cl. Let's see if his method works against big teams in cl.

 

[serghei]

Barca outplayed Atletico and played well in first half.

The second half the players were either tired or EV anticipated them getting tired and sat deeper.

Second half was shit to watch but it was the better performance in first half that won it.

Barcelona outplayed Atletico in the first half, then in the 2nd defended with a low block (can be called parking the bus) with Messi and Suarez alone trying to get something on the break. We had so few counters (didn't even try to much as to not lose defensive shape) that they barely had any good balls to use.

 

[El Gato]

[MENTION=5226]Wolfe[/MENTION], many of the changes he made were good. Most of them were asked by many users on this forum after we lost Neymar, including the 2 striker system as it was clearly a viable solution that would allow both Messi and Suarez to play centrally and leave the flanks to be used by overlapping FBs. Everybody is saying that he's done well this season in terms of results, but the most crucial part of it is just coming up, and lately the team is been carried by Messi more than in any prior season.

He's improved some things, at the cost of weakening others. Result-wise, he's done well, but the football we play is worse than in many previous seasons. Jury's still out. Winning La Liga is mandatory when Madrid fail to live up to the standard.

The forum is talking out of its ass about 4-4-2 like it's the devil. You're playing that way, because you've lost a world class winger and because you've lost out on Champions League because you weren't balanced in the 4-3-3 since you lost world class performers in Xavi and Alves. It's a logical step to take and leaves your options open to get back to something more comfortable as soon as your new guys come in, settle down and are no longer frowned upon when they fuck up. It's both protecting the new and fixing the old. What could possibly be wrong with it? People have zero patience and never let things play out on a month-year basis.

In many ways people are as fickle as the Madrid supporters are about the BBC comeback. Having the old washed up BBC return that is old, washed up, but can still be effective is a transition as much as the 4-4-2. Who in their right mind would keep BBC permanently when you have a world class playmaker in Isco and ready to explode Asensio just waiting to be released and cause havoc? Why would Barca keep 4-4-2 with Coutinho, Dembele and possibly Griezmann coming in? This is all serving the long term goals while being a surprising and successful strategy for the short-term that prioritises results over style.

And people need to realise that so bad.

 

[JamDav1982]

Barcelona outplayed Atletico in the first half, then in the 2nd defended with a low block (can be called parking the bus) with Messi and Suarez alone trying to get something on the break.

I know that is what I said basically.

People tending to ignore the approach in first half that won it and focusing on when defending the lead which I also thought was shit to watch but not like played like that from start.