Ernesto Valverde - V1

[henias]

Lucho was flawed tactically, but was a World Class motivator. Valverde is better tactically, but has failed to realise that we are a scoring team.

Both are equally flawed tactically. All Valverde did was instill some sort of defensive shape and conservativeness but has absolutely no clue how to approach games except for this one dimensional, no plan B approach. On top of that, he is too timid to instill or change the momentum of the game.

 

[Devils]

Lucho was flawed tactically, but was a World Class motivator. Valverde is better tactically, but has failed to realise that we are a scoring team.

I'd disagree wit that.

Lucho's Barca for the calender year of 2015 was special and one of the greatest Barca teams in history.

That team, although short lived, was unplayable. Valverde's team is not even in that galaxy.

 

[Ghostmaster]

A lot of us saw this coming. But there were self anointed 'saints' chastising everyone who called out on Valverde, saying "look at the results, you fans are spoilt, etc.". What do the Valverde sympathizers have to say now? Valverde and all his fans can gtfo.

You saw it coming..., did you see Pep get destroyed by Liverpool as well? Everyone were drooling about City and how they are better and how they are strong, so what's the problem here, after spending hundreds of millions? The thing is every manager can get exposed in CL because you need just one bad night and you out, that's why you can't prioritize CL, you always need to focus on La Liga and what happens in CL, happens.

 

[FCBfan22]

Ok. We need CM's or AM's. Currently we only have Coutinho who is on the right level. Forget about the other positions, this is where we are lacking. Who would you get? I personally would go for Eriksen and Aouar, but that would be around 120 million.

Who are other options in your opinion? One young talent and one world class midfielder. Go.

I'd disagree wit that.

Lucho's Barca for the calender year of 2015 was special and one of the greatest Barca teams in history.

That team, although short lived, was unplayable. Valverde's team is not even in that galaxy.

True that. But I'd say that Lucho's tactical flaws started creeping in the next season. But yeah, 14/15 was magical.

 

[Icarium]

Only reason why we were able to turn 14/15 was our players were fresh for second half of the season. Lucho kept on rotating until Anoeta. And that was a huge wake up, entire squad was motivated and they were fresh. They were hungry for trophies and they got it. Complete opposite to this season. There was no wake up call. We just kept on being average and squeezing out wins with very less rotation.

 

[FCBfan22]

Only reason why we were able to turn 14/15 was our players were fresh for second half of the season. Lucho kept on rotating until Anoeta. And that was a huge wake up, entire squad was motivated and they were fresh. They were hungry for trophies and they got it. Complete opposite to this season. There was no wake up call. We just kept on being average and squeezing out wins with very less rotation.

There was. Sevilla. But it was quickly masked by very lucky performance against Roma.

 

[serghei]

Only reason why we were able to turn 14/15 was our players were fresh for second half of the season. Lucho kept on rotating until Anoeta. And that was a huge wake up, entire squad was motivated and they were fresh. They were hungry for trophies and they got it. Complete opposite to this season. There was no wake up call. We just kept on being average and squeezing out wins with very less rotation.

There were plenty wake up calls but got ignored because teams couldn't finish their chances. Chelsea could've done to us what Roma did. They hit the post 4 times. Out shit play in CL has been glossed over because we somehow got results.

We were even dominated by Sporting away. Could't even trouble Olympiakos. Every away game this season in CL we showed we're there for the taking. Even against smaller teams.

Our results?

0-1 vs Sporting away in a match we were dreadful in. Own Goal to the rescue. Don't remember any chances from us really.
0-0 vs Olympiakos, barely created anything all game.
0-0 vs Juventus, they were slightly the better team.
1-1 vs Chelsea, should've lost this one by more than 1 goal.
0-3 vs No comment. Was 3-0, could've been 5 easily.

We scored 2 goals in 5 games, we didn't dominate any of them, and we got lucky in most getting results we shouldn't have based on how the game looked. And even considering this, we only won 1 game after an own goal from a Sporting player.

 

[JamDav1982]

Only reason why we were able to turn 14/15 was our players were fresh for second half of the season. Lucho kept on rotating until Anoeta. And that was a huge wake up, entire squad was motivated and they were fresh. They were hungry for trophies and they got it. Complete opposite to this season. There was no wake up call. We just kept on being average and squeezing out wins with very less rotation.

The biggest reason was a change of tactics that season.

 

[Icarium]

The biggest reason was a change of tactics that season.

Yes that was the technical reason and main reason. I am just saying it wouldn't have been possible if players did not get motivated to perform at their best and they were fresh enough to handle the intensity. So many matches we won because of individual brilliance but valverde did not change anything. He kept on doing same thing playing the same squad.

 

[henias]

You saw it coming..., did you see Pep get destroyed by Liverpool as well? Everyone were drooling about City and how they are better and how they are strong, so what's the problem here, after spending hundreds of millions? The thing is every manager can get exposed in CL because you need just one bad night and you out, that's why you can't prioritize CL, you always need to focus on La Liga and what happens in CL, happens.

This is bottling a 3-goal lead without making any change when u see your team crumbling in front of your eyes. Pep made a fatal mistake on that night, but for Valverde we have seen the same old drab against Sevilla, Las Palmas. You would think EV learnt lessons from the game, no, he still believes such uninspiring tactically flawed approach can win you games, chasing the game at 70-80th minute, and then constantly hoping Messi to change the game's outcome for him. Once Messi stops performing, everything is exposed. "Unbeaten", "Best defensive record", all useless now and those are just scraping results that will never get you anywhere, not even in the near future.

 

[Tekkers]

Now it's come out that Rakitic is injured? This guy is nothing more than the Tom Thibodeau of football

 

[Ghostmaster]

This is bottling a 3-goal lead without making any change when u see your team crumbling in front of your eyes. Pep made a fatal mistake on that night, but for Valverde we have seen the same old drab against Sevilla, Las Palmas. You would think EV learnt lessons from the game, no, he still believes such uninspiring tactically flawed approach can win you games, chasing the game at 70-80th minute, and then constantly hoping Messi to change the game's outcome for him. Once Messi stops performing, everything is exposed. "Unbeaten", "Best defensive record", all useless now and those are just scraping results that will never get you anywhere, not even in the near future.

Conceded 6 goals last season against Monaco, 5 against Liverpool this season, he is making a hell a lot of 'fatal mistakes'.

Being unbeaten matters because we are close to winning La Liga and if RM won't win CL, it'll feel damn good knowing that they are trophyless.

Also we are playing better football since Coutinho arrived and Dembele got back from injury, the way we played against Girona or first half against Leganes this what we are capable of.

 

[Neeraj]

You saw it coming..., did you see Pep get destroyed by Liverpool as well? Everyone were drooling about City and how they are better and how they are strong, so what's the problem here, after spending hundreds of millions? The thing is every manager can get exposed in CL because you need just one bad night and you out, that's why you can't prioritize CL, you always need to focus on La Liga and what happens in CL, happens.

That's irrelevant though isn't it? Sure, you can have bad days in CL, but we were getting outplayed in pretty much every away game, and even for large portions of home games. Whether one saw the City debacle or not is material, because this was very clearly on the cards. It wasn't just about a bad night out, which can happen and will be excused if you're playing somewhat attractive football. Valverde just stands there dumbfounded at what's going on. No tactical change, no substitution, nothing. It was baffling.

 

[jamrock]

As he not resigned yet?

Bringing on Gomes in the 81th minutes,

A team playing 3 at the back & you don't realize you need to put on a extra forward to stretch them? Every single person who watches football knows this basic tactic, it will stretch them and force the wide men in Midfield back to help over, which will give out Midfielders more space.

For these two things along, he should resign, I'm not going to talk about him being a coward, I have been saying this for too long.

 

[xXKonan]

The only thing I can think of with the Gomes sub is he was trying to protect the 4-3 Lead we had but that quickly went out the window and we conceded a goal like within 2 mins of him coming on.