Ernesto Valverde - V1

Joan

Well-known member
It's a logical response. For a manager who's a short-term solution himself. If he had decided what to do with his career, his answer might be different. Without the quote, feels taken out of context. Missing part: "No sé qué haré la próxima temporada. En esto del fútbol, quién lo sabe." Probably wants to wait and see how the season goes. + he knows he's got a limited amount of trust and that no major fuckup will be tolerated.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
If those journalist had Barca in their heart they would pester him each time with questions of quality of football and giving chances to Masia. He is being held accountable for results only as if we were some newly bought shitty team that hasn't won anything in their history.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
If those journalist had Barca in their heart they would pester him each time with questions of quality of football and giving chances to Masia. He is being held accountable for results only as if we were some newly bought shitty team that hasn't won anything in their history.

I think most people look at the situation as; its the end of our golden era, struggles to follow and EV is doing the best he can with the squad available. i kinda felt that when we started well after losing Neymar and then Dembele early but you can tell the sign of a shit manager when were still scraping results with one of the best squads in europe. i can forgive a defensive/negative performance vs say Bayern away in the CL semi's etc but doing it against bottom la liga teams is unacceptable
 

serghei

Senior Member
It's a logical response. For a manager who's a short-term solution himself. If he had decided what to do with his career, his answer might be different. Without the quote, feels taken out of context. Missing part: "No sé qué haré la próxima temporada. En esto del fútbol, quién lo sabe." Probably wants to wait and see how the season goes. + he knows he's got a limited amount of trust and that no major fuckup will be tolerated.

I think it makes sense and it's fair from him. He probably wants to wait to see how he does in CL, knowing that this year CL is the major interest. But, career wise, if he wins the CL his best option would still be to move.

I think most people look at the situation as; its the end of our golden era, struggles to follow and EV is doing the best he can with the squad available. i kinda felt that when we started well after losing Neymar and then Dembele early but you can tell the sign of a shit manager when were still scraping results with one of the best squads in europe. i can forgive a defensive/negative performance vs say Bayern away in the CL semi's etc but doing it against bottom la liga teams is unacceptable

Every manager is scraping results at times though. Liverpool with fecking Klopp barely made it out to Last 16 in CL, and were one Milik chance away to go out in the Group Stage, a great embarrassment for a top club. I don't really blame Valverde for scraping some results here and there, as the season is usually hard, especially when you're playing in a competitive league like La Liga certainly is.

But where he really is a major disappointment is squad management. He is awful at it. Doesn't know to use his players in a way to get the best out of them and to have them fresh for the biggest part of the season. It's an important asset for a Barca manager, vital some would say.
 
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DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I think it makes sense and it's fair from him. He probably wants to wait to see how he does in CL, knowing that this year CL is the major interest. But, career wise, if he wins the CL his best option would still be to move.

It's not fair to the club that will need to scramble for a replacement and want to plan for the next season with a manager in their mind. He has to decide soon. Lucho and Pep did so around this time of the year and the club would be incredibly stupid to let Valverde wait until April to decide if he want to continue or not.

We'll probably end up with a downgrade if they let him delay it until late and decides to bail lol.
 

serghei

Senior Member
It's not fair to the club that will need to scramble for a replacement and want to plan for the next season with a manager in their mind. He has to decide soon. Lucho and Pep did so around this time of the year and the club would be incredibly stupid to let Valverde wait until April to decide if he want to continue or not.

We'll probably end up with a downgrade if they let him delay it until late and decides to bail lol.

Club should have options lined up either way, so that they start negotiations when Valverde leaves. Big name managers aren't on the market anyway. Struggle to see any viable names except for Koeman and Setien.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Lots of names depending on circumstances: Koeman, Setien, Sergio Conceicao, Allegri, Jardim ..

Not that anybody will improve anything drastically :lol:
 

Joan

Well-known member
Club should have options lined up either way, so that they start negotiations when Valverde leaves. Big name managers aren't on the market anyway. Struggle to see any viable names except for Koeman and Setien.

Aye. They should have a word with our options. No matter what Valverde decides, if they disappoint in the CL, he'll leave and we'll need a new coach. Can't know soon enough.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
If we go out against Lyon he should be fired on the spot and not even finish the season. Would be unacceptable.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Actually, I think that if we don't reach CL semis, he should be fired.

Bonkers exaggeration. All depends on the 1/4s draw. You ought to be getting to the same stage as last time minimum. The rest is up in the air by any stretch of ambition and imagination.
 

Joan

Well-known member
Bonkers exaggeration. All depends on the 1/4s draw. You ought to be getting to the same stage as last time minimum. The rest is up in the air by any stretch of ambition and imagination.

Not if you're expexted to make a step forward in a certain competition. I expect, reasonable or not, a strong performance in the 1/4s. And hopefully, bar some terrible luck, a semis. However, another early exit would tell more about the team than the manager. But also that Valverde is not the man to make the necessary change.
 

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