So now you've graduated to "but but we've always been bottlers"? Have you no shame? You literally just dunked on our whole club history just to defend your idol? What has Valverde done for you to inspire such devotion? Jesus would be jealous.
Did those bottler teams have Messi in them? Did those bottler teams have a billion dollar squad in a football era dominated by money? Did those bottler teams play like cowards and bring shame upon Cruyff's and Barca's name? Did those bottler teams give up 3 goals leads in consecutive years playing the exact same brand of cowardly football?
Seriously i'm all for contrarian opinions but this is just straight up trolling/retardation/pathetic wankfest and worthy of a ban. Go out clear your head. If that doesn't help seek help from a psychiatrist and stop watching football.
Remember- A CLUB IS BIGGER THAN ONE MAN. Especially a pathetic nobody like Valgreen who nobody will remember in a decade.
I am not defending EV anymore.
I would sack him.
BUt I have fears that not too much will change (in a CL) with a new coach.
We'll win La Liga either way. I mean, we won La Liga with Paulinho-Rakitic. We are too strong for La Liga with Messi.
So, whoever comes, he will probably win La Liga.
That doesn't mean that a coach is good or bad, since with Messi, almost any coach will win La liga.
Regarding our last 30 years of history, yes, after tonight I don't know what should we do anymore:
1. if we play too attacking we get killed on counters. And lose.
2. if we play too light players, we get bullied in the middle. And lose.
3. if we play with a team like today, we can't create anything. And lose.
Whatever we try, we lose.
I think that no matter what we do (regardless of a coach, since the same happened under Tito, Tata, Lucho, EV) we will lose in a crazy/naive way.
Some guys asked why I posted Cruijff's videos? To show that even then, with a way better coach, we had the same mental problems as a team.
During majority of our history, we were always hailed as a team with the best players, with the most beautiful play, but on way too many occasions, we always bottle in the same fashion in a CL, like tonight.
With Cruijff, Van Gaal, Sera Ferrer, Rexach, Antic, even Rijkaard, Tito, Tata, Lucho, EV.
Something isn't right with our team mentally in KO matches for the last 30 years.
In the last 30 years, we are by far the best team in La Liga. So, La Liga and a league competition suits us.
But we are just not a good team for knockout matches.
Messi saved our asses a few times and brought a few CLs, but other than that, our last 30 years is more or less the same old story all the time.
And again: I will not defend EV anymore.
I liked him while the results were good, but these 2 CL defeats were bad.
Also, I am ok now with selling Raki, Vidal and a lot of older guys.
But still, I don't think that technique alone in upcoming years will be enough for CLs.
In the future we will need to do something about that mental strength, complacency, hunger in a CL.
For La Liga, we are more than fine.
After this, I would buy De Ligt.
Maybe his mental strength will be a step No1 in getting better results in the future.
If he is as mentally strong as people claim.