Ernesto Valverde - V1

[messi2140]

#Valverdeforlife

What has a bum like Valgreen done to inspire this level of devotion. Jesus would be jealous

Thats the question Im asking myself here. How can someone be so average and such a coward and somehow attract so many fanboys.

 

[Givenchy]

Hahahaha BBZ still pushing the imaginary narratives of people clamoring for Alena and Puig to start CL matches. Keep sucking that Valgreen lollipop mate.

Ernesto "league master" Valverde

Ernesto "he isn't perfect but no one is better" Valverde

Ernesto "it's the young players fault for not developing themselves" Valverde

Ernesto "seniors are past it but it isn't his fault for playing them every match" Valverde

Ernesto "we can't play good football with a billion dollar squad" Valverde

you forgot

Ernesto "safe bet" Valverde

 

[Cule4life]

Thats the question Im asking myself here. How can someone be so average and such a coward and somehow attract so many fanboys.

I could digest the idea some shortsighted people will shout "but but results" in the beginning. But since that bubble has burst, they keep spouting BS after BS to excuse their overlord. What is it? (Apart from BBZ's agenda peddling BS ofc)

Stockholm syndrome?
Lack of football knowledge?
Casuals who don't actually watch matches or recent fans who don't know how Barca's philosophy?
Bus parking football lovers?
Inability to admit ones mistake like Trump supporters?
Pure retardedness?
Trolls/Secret Madrid fans poking fun at Barca?

I suppose it's a combination of the above. Anybody who actually supports Valgreen now has to be a troll/clueless idiot since even his die hard fans have turned on him/disappeared/can't defend him now.

you forgot

Ernesto "safe bet" Valverde

Ernesto "safe bet for a remontada" Valverde

 

[messi2140]

I could digest the idea some shortsighted people will shout "but but results" in the beginning. But since that bubble has burst, they keep spouting BS after BS to excuse their overlord. What is it? (Apart from BBZ's agenda peddling BS ofc)

Stockholm syndrome?
Lack of football knowledge?
Casuals who don't actually watch matches or recent fans who don't know how Barca's philosophy?
Bus parking football lovers?
Inability to admit ones mistake like Trump supporters?
Pure retardedness?
Trolls/Secret Madrid fans poking fun at Barca?

I suppose it's a combination of the above. Anybody who actually supports Valgreen now has to be a troll/clueless idiot since even his die hard fans have turned on him/disappeared/can't defend him now.

But now we have new accounts mysteriously popping up peddling the same garbage as the Valverde cheerleaders before they disappeared.

Seems the 2 new "narratives (pure bullshit) are these

-Valverde is guarenteed to win La liga's , while conveniently ignoring that Messi is 90 percent of the reason Barca is dominating la liga + Our rivals being pure shite

-The Squad is shite ---> Barca has the most expensive squad , with the most quality out there. And now they are pretending as if poor Valverde cant bench the senior players that are playing bad.

 

[Havesaks]

I could digest the idea some shortsighted people will shout "but but results" in the beginning. But since that bubble has burst, they keep spouting BS after BS to excuse their overlord. What is it? (Apart from BBZ's agenda peddling BS ofc)

Stockholm syndrome?
Lack of football knowledge?
Casuals who don't actually watch matches or recent fans who don't know how Barca's philosophy?
Bus parking football lovers?
Inability to admit ones mistake like Trump supporters?
Pure retardedness?
Trolls/Secret Madrid fans poking fun at Barca?

I suppose it's a combination of the above. Anybody who actually supports Valgreen now has to be a troll/clueless idiot since even his die hard fans have turned on him/disappeared/can't defend him now.

Its pretty obvious that fans who supports Valverde, are aware of the 1) aging core 2) neymar-gate, which led to 3) dembele + coutinho situation 4) lack of leaders in the locker room 5) messis hybrid-role / bad stamina - and thats just top of my head. Its like people think we can play alena, coutinho and arthur in the midfield and still win double back to back and on top of that a champions league, if only we didn't have Valverde... and thats just absurd.

 

[tacticvarium]

Why wasn't this guy permanently banned?
I thought cancer was gone

 

[Hamzah]

Guys like BBZ, havesaks, Wolfe, khaled and the new tackle guy are essential for the forum. They provide a counterbalance to the “group think” on this forum and without them it wouldn’t be worth reading.

They might not always be right, but they are right a lot of the time, they present their arguments in a reasonable and intellectual way and make many salient points.

Contrast that with the other guys who spend most of their time writing like 12 year olds and throwing around personal insults.

 

[Messigician]

Guys like BBZ, havesaks, Wolfe, khaled and the new tackle guy are essential for the forum. They provide a counterbalance to the “group think” on this forum and without them it wouldn’t be worth reading.

They might not always be right, but they are right a lot of the time, they present their arguments in a reasonable and intellectual way and make many salient points.

Contrast that with the other guys who spend most of their time writing like 12 year olds and throwing around personal insults.

Yes the irrational haters want to live in an echo chamber where only their own opinion should be followed and listeners. They do not keep an open mind, narrow minded people...

 

[jairzinho]

Of course it's bad but the board believe in the managers project. And Valverde has Cruyff's backing. We need to keep faith EV will learn from his mistakes

It's impossible to keep the faith in a manager who makes the same mistakes over and over.

Who has caused the most humiliating defeats to the club in back to back seasons. Relying on Messi in the league.

Roma and Liverpool came about as a result of taking the same approach but expecting different results.

Anyone can look at those games and observe similarities from both. The cowardice of the manager and inability to inspire the team just to name a few things.

His project should be disbanded as soon as possible and players like Raki and Suarez should follow him out the door.

 

[xXKonan]

Guys like BBZ, havesaks, Wolfe, khaled and the new tackle guy are essential for the forum. They provide a counterbalance to the “group think” on this forum and without them it wouldn’t be worth reading.

They might not always be right, but they are right a lot of the time, they present their arguments in a reasonable and intellectual way and make many salient points.

Contrast that with the other guys who spend most of their time writing like 12 year olds and throwing around personal insults.

I agree about Khaled and Wolfe to an extent but the rest? Nah BBZ tries way too hard to intentionally be that counterbalance guy which leads him to come off as a troll and when he gets it wrong big time he tries to mental gymnastics his way out of by making up fantasy scenarios that don't even make any sense in the first place.

Which separates him from the likes of Khaled from BBZ, the former at least is much more realistic in his views while the latter tries his hardest to prove he is right even though the arguments aren't there for him to back him up so he has to invent stuff to prove his point.

Wouldn't be so bad if BBZ can actually admit he is wrong at times. We are all human and we all get it wrong ourselves.

 

[Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor]

I agree about Khaled and Wolfe to an extent but the rest? Nah BBZ tries way too hard to intentionally be that counterbalance guy which leads him to come off as a troll and when he gets it wrong big time he tries to mental gymnastics his way out of by making up fantasy scenarios that don't even make any sense in the first place.

Which separates him from the likes of Khaled from BBZ, the former at least is much more realistic in his views while the latter tries his hardest to prove he is right even though the arguments aren't there for him to back him up so he has to invent stuff to prove his point.

Wouldn't be so bad if BBZ can actually admit he is wrong at times. We are all human and we all get it wrong ourselves.

I'm sure there are far more valid points, more eloquently put, in BBZ's posts than a lot of posts here which mainly consist of connecting everything to EV in a negative light, whilst finding the most varied way in insulting him. I want EV gone as much as anyone but we need to get over the fact that it looks like he is staying (for now).

 

[serghei]

Guys like BBZ, havesaks, Wolfe, khaled and the new tackle guy are essential for the forum. They provide a counterbalance to the “group think” on this forum and without them it wouldn’t be worth reading.

They might not always be right, but they are right a lot of the time, they present their arguments in a reasonable and intellectual way and make many salient points.

Contrast that with the other guys who spend most of their time writing like 12 year olds and throwing around personal insults.

Please, if this forum would be a restaurant, and every user would be a dish (be it savory or desert) BBZ would be the fruit tart. Why? Because his posts follow the same formula. Much of the same thing in different variants.

It's like the crust (base of his reasoning) filled with different fillings. The fillings are the stats and the direction he manipulates them. Add some gelatin to keep the filling from falling apart and the tart is complete.

Wolfe would be like an overcooked New York Steak. Almost great, but the chef forgot it in the oven too much, and it's just not as good as it should be.

Khaled is one of the more serious posters. One of the best imo, probably the best conservative non-emotional poster around here. For this reason, he is a Pasta Ravioli. Difficult to get right, but it's a top dish. Not too fancy, but elegant and pleasant.

 

[messi2140]

Please, if this forum would be a restaurant, and every user would be a dish (be it savory or desert) BBZ would be the fruit tart. Why? Because his posts follow the same formula. Much of the same thing in different variants.

It's like the crust (base of his reasoning) filled with different fillings. The fillings are the stats and the direction he manipulates them. Add some gelatin to keep the filling from falling apart and the tart is complete.

Wolfe would be like an overcooked New York Steak. Almost great, but the chef forgot it in the oven too much, and it's just not as good as it should be.

Khaled is one of the more serious posters. One of the best imo, probably the best conservative non-emotional poster around here. For this reason, he is a Pasta Ravioli. Difficult to get right, but it's a top dish. Not too fancy, but elegant and pleasant.

Spot on.

 

[Barcilliant]

Allegri or Sarri for me. This side is aging and needs a pragmatic manager to get the best out of the seniors remaining years. They would be a vast improvement on Shitverde.

I actually think Valencia will beat us. We have some injuries plus our mental state isn't that good. People are assuming a double but it won't happen. I think a defeat will give the board food for thought.

 

[Sorin]

Lmao at BBZ presenting his arguments in an intelectual way.

Changing arguments from day to day to fit his usually shity narrative is in no way intelectual.

Hamzah is just another mindless, bullshit peddling Valverde backer. He was constantly praising Rakitic as the best thing since sliced bread before our return leg against Pool. Constantly saying that he is a such needed workhorse with good passing skills(absolutely laughable), which gives us defensive solidity. However, as soon as we got shat on in the return leg, with rakitic offering nothing, but absolutely nothing of what Hamzah foolishly preached, he then changed the tape and said that Valverde is only partially at fault because he doesn't have good players to work with, completely backtracking on his claim of the "great workhorse" Rakitic along the way.

Furthermore, he backed Valverde's use of Vidal and Rakitic time and time again because that's the way you win the CL, with this kind of workhorses as opposed to physically weaker players but more technical and more press resistant. "The times of Xavi and Iniesta are long gone, the times of great workhorses like Rakitic is the way to go". Suffice to say we were absolutely embarrassed by Liverpool's midfield while our "workhorses" were trampled all over. Laughable poster really.

Multiple posters like [MENTION=15262]serghei[/MENTION], [MENTION=19222]xXKonan[/MENTION], [MENTION=22412]henias[/MENTION], [MENTION=13291]Cule4life[/MENTION], [MENTION=21136]Potroh[/MENTION], [MENTION=22475]FCBfan22[/MENTION], [MENTION=22806]MTL_Barca[/MENTION] and many others give compeling and well thought out arguments about why Valverde has failed to deliver but the great [MENTION=2258]Hamzah[/MENTION] thinks that "The Great Leader's" opponents only sling unfair insults towards everybody.

The gal of this poster spreading bullshit when he himself has changed his narrative in 2 fucking hours as soon as he was proved wrong. Incredible.