Ernesto Valverde

BBZ8800

BBZ8800

Senior Member
El Mundo Deportivo, the board's papers have just wrote an article that Ronald Koeman is on a shortlist for EV's successor.
As expected, since he has the highest level of connections and requirements.
 
Lapi

Lapi

Member
BBZ8800 said:
Or a lack of understanding for what?
For pushing a head into the sand and pretending that our style is a GOAT style and that we are losing in the same manner for 30 years: because of a bad luck, individual mistakes and because of a random scapegoats?
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Lack of understanding of all, mainly visual, aspects of the game, which cannot be expressed by numbers.
Although 'game-systems' can be expressed by numeric or math expressions and equations and can be modeled (to a certain extent), the most frequently quoted numbers in football do not necessarily represent the factors which are quality related.

Mere results, trophies won, the number of shots, etc., can certainly be guiding factors but rarely tell more than that.
The 'HOW' a result has been achieved factor is the one that usually can only be expressed by longer descriptions, mere data doesn't represent the actual game.

Just like the last Barca game, where the opponent had 3 shots on goal and won by 3:1.
Unless watching it again and again, even goals tell nothing more than just what they were, because there are lucky goals, easy goals, dirty goals, own-goals, etc.

If your opponent's defender gives away the ball to your attacker and he scores, no statistics will ever reflect upon the fact if it was a goal scored due to a huge MISTAKE by the opponent, or if it was the result of a beautiful attacking combination.
The numbers don't speak about the 'how' and the 'why' factors.

What about recognizing patterns on places where others don't see them?
Someone will recognize patterns and deeper problems.
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For the mentioned patent recognition you need data, that is not really available in football.
If your team lost twice as many times with X as the coach, compared to Y, yes you can see a pattern, but it only tells you the given variable's value for the coach. It can not express stylistic values.

This is a very ancient question, namely if a team is successful BECAUSE of they play nicely, OR they were successful due to other factors or circumstances.
This is a typical "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?" question.
The numbers can NOT tell you about the quality. They state the result. The end-result only.
 
George_Costanza

George_Costanza

Active member
BBZ8800 said:
Basically for now, his pros are:
1. his team plays nice
2. and he won 3 continental cup tournaments
3. Messi and Pep like him
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Which exactly what we need. League title would probably be won if we have a donkey coach, not convinced? One word "Valverde"

We need a strong no-nonsense coach who gets their players to do exactly what he asks because the players know better than to test him. Someone who play attractive attacking football and expert in winning continental tournaments.
 
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