Ernesto Valverde

[Katarina1]

Are you seriously comparing Ballon Dor Messi to the current one we have? It's not close.

so Valverde got more out of Messi then?

 

[KingLeo10]

so Valverde got more out of Messi then?

Or it could be that that Messi was younger and hungrier.



Maybe it's a combination of both. I tend to think Messi is Messi, in that he's largely responsible for his output. He scored 50 goals a season for 4 different managers before EV. Regardless, it's interesting to see you cartwheeling for ole EV these days FCB1987.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

so Valverde got more out of Messi then?

Messi has missed 71 kicks or whatever it's now in open play. His kicks look slow and awfully placed. Messis level has dropped. A lot. He is still getting chances but not finishing them.

 

[Behrox]

Argument can be made that Messi was at better shape and form under EV.
I mean if people attribute every player failure to him, then should not player who looked at his sharpest and then underperform immediately after he leaves be attributed to him too?

Stupid Cowman not using his damn time machine

 

[Blackened]

We need Ernesto and Suarez back.

 

[Messigician]

We need Ernesto and Suarez back.

Yes yes we all miss them but that ship has sailed

 

[mladenq]

no sane person ever misses valverde

 

[Morten]

if Ernesto does well at Arsenal, I bet forum de amigos will start claiming Arsenal has one of the best squads in the world and that any manager could succeed with Xhaka, Bellerin, and Luiz.

Maybe he could teach Bellerin to take a proper throw-in, that alone would improve them.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Stupid Cowman not using his damn time machine

Age is valid, but Messi form fell from a cliff after EV left tbh. A year doesn't do that to a player

 

[BarcaOG]

absolutely hilarious that some of you think EV would somehow have averted this disaster. hes the one that set it in motion, folks

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

absolutely hilarious that some of you think EV would somehow have averted this disaster. hes the one that set it in motion, folks

Exactly. Valverde is the guy who started all this. It was coming to an end before he left. We played super shit football, yet kept barely winning.

 

[Katarina1]

absolutely hilarious that some of you think EV would somehow have averted this disaster. hes the one that set it in motion, folks

He did avert the disaster which started under Lucho in 16-17

 

[BarcaOG]

He did avert the disaster which started under Lucho in 16-17

right, because it wasnt EV who 'masterminded' the roma and anfield debacles...

/sarcasm

 

[Katarina1]

right, because it wasnt EV who 'masterminded' the roma and anfield debacles...

/sarcasm

nope, it was the same players who masterminded PSG and Juve before him in 2017 and Bayern and Juve in 2020.

 

[BarcaOG]

nope, it was the same players who masterminded PSG and Juve before him in 2017 and Bayern and Juve in 2020.

facepalm.

man, i dont think its likely but itd be so great to see EV go to arsenal and fail epicly there. just so you morons can see just how incompetent he is as a manager