Ernesto Valverde
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khaled_a_d
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They are really close, but they also have the toughest schedule while Betis has the easiest one.
JamDav1982
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Betis could easily be happy to play for 5th and rotate a lot for Conference League.
Atheltic have the bigger squad to compete on two fronts.
Atheltic have the bigger squad to compete on two fronts.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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If EV wins EL with Bilbao, he needs to go to a A-tier club next season. Guy deserves a cl.
MonteCuler
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He bottled a CL trophy served on plate after a 3-0 lead, unable to motivate his players to fight
Can't see why he deserves a CL after that
CatalinR10
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Not only that , I think he's the only coach to bottle a 3 goal lead in the CL in 2 consecutive years
PAIN
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Motivation?? Dude you must be joking, team was already on fire that season and they wanted the treble after the humilations in previous years. Individual mistakes in defence/midfield and our offense not able to score only 1 goal made the disaster perfect....no coach itw could have rescued this team!
soul24rage
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Bro brought in Arthur when we already conceded 3 goals
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Bro brought in Arthur when we already conceded 3 goals
Fiorentina lost 0-4 vs Inter with Arthur Melo on the pitch.....
He isnt the guy we thought he is....
soul24rage
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Bartomeu ruined him
Rassvet
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Until Flick arrived, Barca had been dabbed on in CL every season for almost a decade. EV is the only one who gets accused of bottling the title though because some overrated that squad and he overachieved enough that it made people think Barca were CL favorites.
Lucho got beaten handedly in the quarters with a better squad and Neymar the year before EV took over. Xavi couldn't even get out of the group stage in 22-23 with a better squad than EV had. Retort is usually that EV had Messi so should have won CL though Messi played 8 CL campaigns under 6 coaches from 2016-2023 without making a semifinal under any other coach and was knocked out in earlier rounds and by bigger margins without mister.
Rassvet
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The "world class" players held back by EV are the likes of Firpo, Arthur, Semedo, and Malcom who have done nothing at the top level since he left.
Meanwhile, the players deemed not good enough when Xavi was here are the likes of Raphina and RL9 who some might say have done quite a bit better.
FinBarcelonafan
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Can we loan him for two games vs Inter? He could literally sleep walk and win those games. We need that. We want that.
MonteCuler
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No level of coping will ever justify bottling 3 goal leads in back to back CL seasons
That should be achievable with much inferior squads than his
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