Euro 2016

Who will win it?

  • France

    Votes: 27 25.0%

  • Germany

    Votes: 24 22.2%

  • Spain

    Votes: 28 25.9%

  • Italy

    Votes: 5 4.6%

  • England

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Portugal

    Votes: 7 6.5%

  • Belgium

    Votes: 3 2.8%

  • Sweden

    Votes: 1 0.9%

  • Croatia

    Votes: 7 6.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 4.6%
  • Total voters
    108
Abeir Toril

Abeir Toril

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Has no one noticed that the brackets look the way they do only because some teams presented themselves above expectations, and the other below? England and Spain have chosen their fate themselves on the pitch. If every team had reached the level of expectations we would have something like this:
1. Switzerland - Poland
2. Spain - Sweden
3. England - Turkey
4. Portugal - Italy
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5. Germany - Slovakia
6. Belgium - Croatia
7. France - Ukraine
8. Russia - Austria

In addition, some complained that in the group stage we hadn't blockbusters... Now we have them all the way to the final and it is also wrong.:thinking:
 
Pablo Escobar

Pablo Escobar

New member
I don't really care about which games are played, really care about the quality of the games, I mean FFS, 1.92 avg goal/match in what was supposed to be

Euro 2000 2.74
Euro 2004 2.48
Euro 2008 2.48
Euro 2012 2.45
Euro 2016 1.92

This format was made by Platini cause it would bring UEFA more profit, small teams from medium or small countries even have fans, many of these countries are actually not poor economically too, so they can afford, while others like Romania or Albania despite being poor have lots of people living abroad even in France or around that region, must be million lol. But in sports terms, it's shit cause it has no relevance, what's next? A 32 Format Euro in which even 4th place goes thru to the Round of 32 at the expense of having to play group winners? :lol:
16 for Euro was that sweet spot just like the World Cup with 32, now that Infatino and Platini promoted 40 Team world Cup from 2026, because it would make more profit, at least you would have 5 teams for 2 spots, but it's always going to be a pain the arse to not play in the final day and depend on the other 4 teams watching on TV, sounds just as bad as the idea of Euro 24.

I would've expected Group C and E to be out with 3rd place and never saw Russia capable anyway to be honest.

Switzerland-Poland
Spain-Hungary
England-Romania
Portugal-Italy

Germany-Slovakia
Belgium-Croatia
France-Turkey
Wales-Austria

Round of 16 wasn't supposed to be very competitive by definition, it was supposed, just like Quarters aren't just played between top teams, the idea is that in the 16 format, you have something to watch knowing that if things go wrong, big teams are out, see 2008 when France had to battle Italy for a place, the other was going out, 2012 when Spain if it would've lost to Croatia could've been out and in the end won sent Croatia home helping Italy go thru, in this format of 24: 1.You can't really have a group like that or Euro 2008 Ned-It-Fr 2.Even if there was such a group, all 3 would go thru and it would still be boring. 3.In games such as England-Slovakia, you wouldn't see Slovakia go for 0-0 just to keep 3rd, there would be much more pressure on teams, now the only team with pressure was Portugal and that we saw, had an immediate effect on the level of the quality of the match.
 
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Abeir Toril

Abeir Toril

New member
Pablo Escobar said:
But in sports terms, it's shit cause it has no relevance, what's next? A 32 Format Euro in which even 4th place goes thru to the Round of 32 at the expense of having to play group winners? :lol:
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An extension to 32 is not a bad idea. I'm not sure that The Netherlands, Denmark, Serbia, Bosnia, Greece, Montenegro lower a current standard. In Europe the formula of 24 or 32 is the same in this regard. The problem is a possibility of promotion from 3rd, which promotes mediocrity and playing for a draw. So the answer is to return to EURO 16 or an extension to the 32, but certainly not remain EURO 24.
 
Pablo Escobar

Pablo Escobar

New member
Abeir Toril said:
An extension to 32 is not a bad idea. I'm not sure that The Netherlands, Denmark, Serbia, Bosnia, Greece, Montenegro lower a current standard. In Europe the formula of 24 or 32 is the same in this regard. The problem is a possibility of promotion from 3rd, which promotes mediocrity and playing for a draw. So the answer is to return to EURO 16 or an extension to the 32, but certainly not remain EURO 24.
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Nobody wanted to host in 2020 with 24.
Greece didn't even beat Faroe in two games and wouldn't even qualify to a 32 Euro because they were jokes :lol:.
Also, you want Serbia, Montenegro who got penalized in their home games to a Euro already crowded by hooligan countries that cause problems? :lol:

24 will do better than 32, but only group winners and best 2 2nd places qualifies, just like it was in the CL 1998-2000, ads some competition and despite still being worse because of overcrowding teams at least they don't bore it in the groups.

As I said, Platini wanted this Euro so UEFA makes more money out of non eligible teams for the old format, and also to help France cause there were less rivals with a 24 format than with a 16 one where even Switzerland and Austria can host. Not anybody can come with 10 stadiums of which 3 are big and the rest are around 40k.
There were many countries that might've hosted in the future, but now we have to deal with the bullshit of Euro 2020 or Qatar 2022 put into place by these corrupt miserable organizations.
Euro is perfect with 8 or 16 teams for competition, anything else is utter crap.
 
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Barcaman

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
BarcaGirl said:
lol Carballo is refereeing Croatia v Portugal. Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.
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You can bet he is butthurt over his posterboy Ramos missing penalty and Spain loss. Who knows what he will do for Ronaldo from his beloved Madrid.
 
SirXavi

SirXavi

The Engineer
Horatio said:
Will close account if Croatia doesn't win?
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Flavius

Flavius

Member
It would have been much better and more correct if the draw would have looked like this.

The six group winners plus the two best runners-up would be seeded from 1 to 8, putting them in the 'top half' of the draw. The remaining teams pick up the 9 to 16 seeds, with the 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 and so on

The actual draw is bullshit...why they can`t think like in tennis? I would also apply this kind of rule in UCL too. Seems more fair, and is not based on LUCK. Football these days depends too much on luck...why not on QUALITY?
Isn`t suppose to have the best teams in semifinals for example? So now they have to kill each other in freaking 16??? Spain with 6 points (2 WINS) play Italy (also 2 WINS) ....at least if it wasn`t changed the rule it was understandable...
 
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barcanuck

barcanuck

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Here's my take. Get rid of the BS Euro Qualifying process. Just do a 32 team EURO every 4 years. Relegate the last team in each group and replace them with a team based on coefficients or FIFA bribery.
 
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