FinBarcelonafan
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Barca could have more players and play both leagues?
European Super League
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Barca could have more players and play both leagues?
Luftstalag14
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Heavy blow dealt to the ESL by the Advocate General of the EU's Court of Justice, saying FIFA's and UEFA's veto of the ESL does not violate the competition rules of the EU. He did say clubs have the freedom to form their own competitions outside the ecosystem of UEFA and FIFA; however they can't participate in competitions organized by FIFA and UEFA without their consent and approval. Basically clubs can create the ESL all they want, but they will have to withdraw from their national leagues and be barred from any UEFA or FIFA sanctioned competitions. They can't have both.
This is not surprising at all. The ESL is dead. What makes me nervous is it seems this initial ruling by CJEU also gives UEFA and FIFA the power to sanction and penalize the three last remaining participants. We'd better be studying all possible scenarios and their implications and be ready.
This is not surprising at all. The ESL is dead. What makes me nervous is it seems this initial ruling by CJEU also gives UEFA and FIFA the power to sanction and penalize the three last remaining participants. We'd better be studying all possible scenarios and their implications and be ready.
Right but can we participate in the MLS. That way Busquets doesn't need to move.
Luftstalag14
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If one day the MLS becomes the biggest and best league in the world, I don't see why not.
Birdy
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We knew that once ESL starts with all clubs we will no longer be part of CL, EL, etc
But has UEFA the power to sanction Barcelona or Real from the Spanish LL?? Isn't that a territory that doesn't fall within their legislation?
Well yes, if the above judgement stands. LaLiga is a member of Uefa and would likely make the decision in line with Uefa. And we all know what Tebas thinks of this.
Right now the Super League is dead. Juve might get relegated (which in another angle may mean they would not care of exiting Serie A) while Barcelona have sold off their future revenues backed by the LaLiga TV rights, so our room to maneuver is miniscule.
Madrid have power but as others have said, Perez is old enough not to sustain a fight and there is no guarantee his replacement would continue with that.
The other issue is Fifa/Uefa having the power to ban players from their international tournaments which this decision would give them the power to. They already established a precedent with the Indonesian breakaway leagues in the 2010s, and it appears the ECA ruling would support it. So another deterrent for the ESL clubs power.
IMO our battle was always wrong. The ESL with the British clubs is the highest income generating possibility but the fight should have been for a Super League for the EU states that can compete with the EPL financially. So something that exists above the National Leagues and Co-Exists with the Champions League. They say it would kill the National Leagues but to what extent would that be true if tv rights are already stagnant while promotion/relegation would exist.
While the EU should reflect on why all of their funds are getting funnelled into a now non-EU nation.
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Birdy
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Don't think an EU SL will be the same at all. W/o top english clubs, even the same format will be a decaf version of the true ESL, where you will be hoping for the Real-PSG and Barca-Bayern games, and most of the rest will be meh
Besides, the problem for UEFA is that in ESL all small clubs don't participate. They will have the same objections if an EU SL w/o small clubs appears.
The target would be a financial competitor for the EPL. Which National Leagues just can not match by themselves.
Tricky but not impossible to run promotion/relegation.
Luftstalag14
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For me the ESL has been a mess since the very beginning, it was hastily launched and not well thought out at all. At first they made it sound like it was going to be a closed competition with only the "elite" clubs in and after the strong opposition from practically everybody within the ecosystem of UEFA, they changed their narrative and claimed it was not going to be a closed competition, everybody can qualify and it is based on merit etc. Not a single idea of how the heck the ESL is going to address the problems they proclaimed exist currently with UEFA-sanctioned competitions and system was revealed or discussed, not a single idea of how it makes European club football better as they claimed was revealed either. Nor did they talk about what is in for the participating clubs, how and why the promised money will be generated. It is just a blah blah blah self-glorifying ad campaign mostly with a lot of promises.
The ESL might come back again in 10, 20, 30 years, but not this current iteration. They botched it. Laporta right now is just blindly following the footsteps of Florentino Perez and heeding his call completely on this, what he doesn't realize is that Madrid is a much better position vis-a-vis us if UEFA does penalize both of us. Laporta needs to jump off this sinking ship and call it quits as soon as possible.
Messigician
Senior Member
🚨 JUST IN: Promoters of the European Super League have won their appeal ? meaning Super League clubs can't be punished by UEFA or FIFA. @JacobsBen #
iniestaGOAT
Senior Member
PL clubs are too much of pussies to do anything.
We need a super league without PL Teams, and UCL can just be Pl 2.0
Birdy
Senior Member
Even if the first version of ESL is w/o PL clubs, sooner or later they will join too
The tide has turned.
It's irreversible
FinBarcelonafan
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**** Yes!!! Now let's do this!!
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