Isaac_Cuenca23
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Sanabria plays for Barca
His second goal is a beauty
FC Barcelona: Win of the youth system
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His second goal is a beauty
Deco 20
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Tonny Sanabria scored the first goal as Paraguay defeated Peru 3-1 in the South American u17 (the third goal is by another Sanabria)
http://laprensa.pe/deportes/noticia...guay-y-complica-sus-chances-mundialistas-5705
http://laprensa.pe/deportes/noticia...guay-y-complica-sus-chances-mundialistas-5705
BerkeleyBernie
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I was watching Neymar's great 2011 Puskas winning goal ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Va6TZhmDQ ) and I'm started to think there's one thing missing from La Masia training, that is also missing on the team- 1v1"tricks."
There is probably no better place in the world to learn ball control, positioning, and passing. This is an academy for the purpose on building skills that lead to brilliant teamwork. However, that may be at the expense of individual 1v1 skills. In the Barça system, one relies on teammates to work through tight spaces, by good positioning and quick, accurate one-touch passing. For the most part, one has no need to take on players 1v1, because the Barça system makes that unnecessary.
The players who have that flash of individual 1v1 brilliance are imported: Ronaldinho, Ibra (even Messi and Thiago, who retain some vestige of their national heritages). Even Messi and Iniesta aren't really "trick" players, simply very efficient dribblers with amazing close ball control and ability to shift direction on a dime. The players who develop trick skills are those who practice them on their own, but few in La Masia probably try- either because the system is successful enough without those talents, or it is considered as detracting from developing team skills.
With all the hew and cry about Barça not having true wingers who can beat their man, one should remember that beating a man 1v1 is not what they are trained to do. Tello wins 1v1 simply by speed, but no true practiced talent. If Barça is not to import such players, it needs to include some individualism in its training- not that players need to whip it out at every occasion, but to have it there when they need it. If opponents know they can't set up just to defend Barça passing through the middle, they will have to push out to the wing players or risk the consequences.
For the same reason, every player needs to practice outside shooting. At the youth level, they can probably walk the ball into the back of the net at will, but then they never learn that weapon they need to keep parked buses honest.
There is probably no better place in the world to learn ball control, positioning, and passing. This is an academy for the purpose on building skills that lead to brilliant teamwork. However, that may be at the expense of individual 1v1 skills. In the Barça system, one relies on teammates to work through tight spaces, by good positioning and quick, accurate one-touch passing. For the most part, one has no need to take on players 1v1, because the Barça system makes that unnecessary.
The players who have that flash of individual 1v1 brilliance are imported: Ronaldinho, Ibra (even Messi and Thiago, who retain some vestige of their national heritages). Even Messi and Iniesta aren't really "trick" players, simply very efficient dribblers with amazing close ball control and ability to shift direction on a dime. The players who develop trick skills are those who practice them on their own, but few in La Masia probably try- either because the system is successful enough without those talents, or it is considered as detracting from developing team skills.
With all the hew and cry about Barça not having true wingers who can beat their man, one should remember that beating a man 1v1 is not what they are trained to do. Tello wins 1v1 simply by speed, but no true practiced talent. If Barça is not to import such players, it needs to include some individualism in its training- not that players need to whip it out at every occasion, but to have it there when they need it. If opponents know they can't set up just to defend Barça passing through the middle, they will have to push out to the wing players or risk the consequences.
For the same reason, every player needs to practice outside shooting. At the youth level, they can probably walk the ball into the back of the net at will, but then they never learn that weapon they need to keep parked buses honest.
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Sir Alupp Heynrguson
I'm kind of confused at to what you consider tricks.
BerkeleyBernie
Senior Member
Not just speed or a simple change of direction (changing the direction of the body and ball simultaneously), but types of ball-handling that deceive markers: croqueta, chapeau, elastico, etc. I know the distinction seems small, but the key is "tricking" your marker's brain rather than simply being faster at running or turning. Speed and quickness are great, but why not train the whole arsenal? Messi used more trickery when he played cutting in from the wing. Now that he is running at several players up the middle, he relies more on efficient change of direction at speed. But for a winger 1v1, the more ways one can get by your marker, the better.
BerkeleyBernie
Senior Member
Tello is purely speed, the Alcantaras are Brazilian. Cuenca is an example of someone who has probably practiced flair on his own, but it doesn't seem to be part of La Masia training.
I'm not negating speed (or passing triangles, the preferred Barça way to beat markers). Just suggesting that trickery and outside shooting should also be practiced. It's likely they aren't emphasized exactly because, in the Barça system, they aren't usually necessary; you pass your way around the defense and walk the ball into the net. I'm suggesting that teaching these skills is the "Plan B" to crack parked bus defenses.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
Even If the Alcantaras are Brazilian, we still have them don't we? As well as Deulofeu, Cuenca, etc. Plus there are a lot of great players in the youth ranks that have the flair, skilll, and creativity to pull out tricks and moves such as Traore (an actual old school winger who beats his man and then crosses), Ebwelle, Seung Woo Lee, and even little Take Kubo. There are many others but those are the most well known.
I don't think it's all that necessary to teach the entire academy an array of skill moves or tricks because 95% of them will never be first team material. The 5% who are first team material and are the "special" players will likely have those traits themselves and that'll help them separate from all the other average talents. The ones who are the great talents with the possibility of becoming first team regulars are usually the ones who have practiced and mastered skill and flair moves to enhance their game and make them more unpredictable/creative.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
It's not just raw speed, it's raw instinct. He doesn't exactly think about what he's doing, he just does it. His close hold of the ball in tight situations is pretty good though, it's his first touch that isn't great.
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