Fifa Ballon d'or 2015

Caps

Caps

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El Flaco said:
It's amusing to see people using goals/assists as an argument for Ballon d'Or.

As if stats tell the whole story about a player's perfomrance or even how good he is...
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It doesn't. The point we're all trying to make is that even if it did, there's still no justification for a comfortable 2nd place.
 
AnfieldEd

AnfieldEd

I am Leg End
The Ballon D'or is presented by FIFA, isn't it?


I doubt we'll ever see Suarez shortlisted for it given he had one of his brain farts at FIFA's main showpiece and decided to start biting people


Call me a conspiracy theorist but I imagine he's not in the good books of any of the big wigs at FIFA
 
khaled_a_d

khaled_a_d

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6 Ballons for Messi said:
Yup, it's the reason that so many players haven't won it or players that deserved 2-3 won only 1. It's a crime that owen has a ballon and batistuta doesn't or that cristiano has 3 and ronaldo has 2.
It's a testament to messi's greatness that he is on 5 ballons now.
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Few things
-this award is more of FIFA award than Ballon . and it has changed a lot
At first FIFA award voting was for NT team coaches only IIRC .then they added captains to the equation

-France football Ballon d'or was for journalist from Europe only .the voting was for players in Europe only too
In 2007 it became international award .
In 2010 and for 1st time .the award became FIFA Ballon d'or .Basically it became journalists,coaches,captains from all over every country in fifa

So when you say Owen won Ballon d'or .he got the it by only winning something like 1/12 of the current FIFA votings set

Worth noting that IIRC the way of counting points for votings as changed few times .but I am not sure
So if you want to talk historically ,this award is totally different than Ballon d'or ever been b4 2010 .and even very different than FIFA award was in its early days .
Nevermind that the voters as persons _not just the occupation _changes a lot on annual basis .
from 2010 the award is more consistent and actually with more clear idea of favoring player performance over just team achievement ,no more the World Cup winner get it crap .

Obviously there will be always complains . Barca fans say it is a hype and how Cr7 didn't deserve it in last year .RM fans will say crap about how Messi didn't deserve it in 2012 :lol: .Ribery would say it is just an award for Messi & Cr7 and EPL fans will complain about how this award ignores their players etc
but that is normal . there is way variety of opinion in football to expect such award makes everyone feel it is good
Another thing ,Owen deserved the award in 2001 .he was amazing that year .Batistuta was gr8 player but he was never the best in the world in a calendar year.this isn't a lifetime achievement award
 
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Neymessi

Neymessi

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Looks like no more discussion is left to do now.We can all agree that

it should look like

1)Messi
2)Neymar
3)ronaldo

what it will look like

1)Messi
2)ronaldo
3)neymar

Would be great if some stats geek post a detailed information on the comparison of ronaldo and neymar this year.
 
raskolnikov

raskolnikov

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I would argue Ronaldo since he was a wf at United but at Real only is one on paper, he is basically a striker given how much time he ends up in Benzema's spot when there is a cross or a pass.
 
RMU ReBorn

RMU ReBorn

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raskolnikov said:
I would argue Ronaldo since he was a wf at United but at Real only is one on paper, he is basically a striker given how much time he ends up in Benzema's spot when there is a cross or a pass.
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But we cant credit him for that . basically he has played as a winger all through his career . Ye he has taken benzema's position while receiving aerial ball's and crosse's but that won't make him a complete Cf/f9 like Leo was under Pep and Titto
 
MagIX

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