Francesc "Tito" Vilanova

serghei

Senior Member
Pep won all the titles in his first season and Tito only won the league. So let's sacK him.
Seriously?

That's your assessment, not mine. I just posted a fact, how you interpret it it's your bussiness. I didn't expect Tito to match Pep in the first place, nor did I demand him to reach the same level of success that Pep had. However, it's the HOW WE LOST that bothers me, not the simple fact that we lost to Bayern, or Real, or Milan in the first game. He made us look pathetic and that's not acceptable.
 
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Mr Hulot

New member
f your friend is suffering from cancer he will need people around him especially if he is in a foreign country. To not visit him in 2 months is bad form.

Especially since Pep was just having vacations, casually learning English or German. He basically had tons of free time.
 

Zebulun

Senior Member
Pep was a winner in the true sense of the word. He imposed his style and made though decision that in the end payed off. When he lost, he lost the right way, playing top quality football. Matches like Inter 1-0, and Chelsea 2-2, make me proud to be a Barcelona fan, even though they turned out to be sad (about the glory hunter BS). Tito, so far, is playing the dead man's hand. How you play is more important than winning or losing.

finally someone that makes sense. :beer2:
 

Maria

New member
After the 2 PKs from RoSELL and Tito, where I found out that:
-Pep is a liar but they would vote him as Barca's president
-Barca doesn't have socios that are delinquents, that they didn't gave the Boixois Nois tickets with 10€(even though Cardoner said so) and that only the police is at fault for what happend against RM
-Puyol is a new signing
-all cules are equall, but only when they need us to buy Barca shirts
-Cesc is an example for every canterano
-Tito has faith in our canteranos, but there's a reason why Thiago only plays with the Sub21 while Cesc, Iniesta and Xavi are with the senior team(also Cesc and Xavi are the best in the world in their position)
-the knock-out round against Milan was easy, we were better against PSG and Bayern was an isolated moment
-only the refs could put a stop to our era

anything bad that will happend to Barca from now on it's well deserved.
 

Meitux

Active member
That's your assessment, not mine. I just posted a fact, how you interpret it it's your bussiness. I didn't expect Tito to match Pep in the first place, nor did I demand him to reach the same level of success that Pep had. However, it's the HOW WE LOST that bothers me, not the simple fact that we lost to Bayern, or Real, or Milan in the first game. He made us look pathetic and that's not acceptable.
Generally you are inside my opinion but i have to point out.Against Chelsea in 2009 we won with a goal in 93,Still if we didnt win CL it wouldnt be an unsuccesfull season cause we played some real great football.And generally all the years with Pep the team showed fighting spirit to win.With Tito its all different,we didnt only give up early but we didnt even try to get something from the first game against Bayern.And thats Mostly Tito's fault of failing to having other ideas..either he was blind or he didnt want to understand that they blocked us playing the same old tactics and the only thing we could do its just pass and pass and pass with no purpose
 
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serghei

Senior Member
They have said numerous times that they are friends, actually.

I say that all the time too. I say I have 20 frieds, when, in fact, I have only 4-5 friends I can really count on. There are friends and friends I guess. I know for sure that real friends visit each other when one of them is sick. So, the're not friends.
 

Mr Hulot

New member
After the 2 PKs from RoSELL and Tito, where I found out that:
-Pep is a liar but they would vote him as Barca's president
-Barca doesn't have socios that are delinquents, that they didn't gave the Boixois Nois tickets with 10€(even though Cardoner said so) and that only the police is at fault for what happend against RM
-Puyol is a new signing
-all cules are equall, but only when they need us to buy Barca shirts
-Cesc is an example for every canterano
-Tito has faith in our canteranos, but there's a reason why Thiago only plays with the Sub21 while Cesc, Iniesta and Xavi are with the senior team(also Cesc and Xavi are the best in the world in their position)
-the knock-out round against Milan was easy, we were better against PSG and Bayern was an isolated moment
-only the refs could put a stop to our era

anything bad that will happend to Barca from now on it's well deserved.

Did they actually said that now or you are referring to their old statements?
 

ebc_99

Active member
I say that all the time too. I say I have 20 frieds, when, in fact, I have only 4-5 friends I can really count on. There are friends and friends I guess. I know for sure that real friends visit each other when one of them is sick. So, the're not friends.

Would you visit those other friends if they were in hospital with cancer? Tito thought they were friends, but he found out the hard way that Pep is not someone he can count on.
 

Maria

New member
They have said numerous times that they are friends, actually.

Actually Tito said that the distance put a wall between them but aparently now they were best friends , but the evil Pep put a stop to that. Tito had his revenge though when he leaked in MD that Pep didn't even came to see him once in the hospital. I wonder if Pep went to see Abi. I bet he didn't.
 

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
Couldn't have expected much different from Tito, he's showing that he's quite clearly a yes man to Rosell and is not capable yet of having his own voice...Definitely knows how to play the game of politics already
 

serghei

Senior Member
Generally you are inside my opinion but i have to point out.Against Chelsea in 2009 we won with a goal in 93,Still if we didnt win CL it wouldnt be an unsuccesfull season cause we played some real great football.And generally all the years with Pep the team showed fighting spirit to win.With Tito its all different,we didnt only give up early but we didnt even try to get something from the first game against Bayern.And thats Mostly Titos fault of failing to having other ideas..either he was blind or he didnt want to understand that they blocked us playing the same old tactics and the only thing we could do its just pass and pass and pass with no purpose

Yes, I agree. When Pep left, Tito was named to ressurect the team, to bring back that desire to win wich was starting to fade after three years of immense success (2009-2011). He didn't manage do to that. When the game got tough we collapsed. A mediocre Barcelona can beat almost every team in La Liga without problems. In Champions League and in clasicos you see the real strenght of the team.

I applaud Tito because Barca didn't waste points last season. As far as consistency against weak to medium teams (even good teams) is concerned, we always got the job done last season. But when we had to bring our A game to the table, when we faced real, top-class sides, we seldom looked good. That is the main issue with T. Vilanova's Barca.

This season, I expect the clasicos to pretty much decide the champion. Let's see how Tito can handle the pressure. Last year, the highest pressure was in the cups: Champions League, Copa del Rey and even the Supercup. He did badly.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
Couldn't have expected much different from Tito, he's showing that he's quite clearly a yes man to Rosell and is not capable yet of having his own voice...Definitely knows how to play the game of politics already

Yes, no backbone whatsoever...
 

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