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Leo_Messi

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So as I thought. Just a rumor for now. I can't imagine De Jong wasting his best years at PSG. It would be a shame for him.

Anyway I have no idea if people here watch De Jong week in and week out (I certainly cannot claim that I do) but are people of the opinion that he is/could be a long-term replacement of Busquets? As I wrote earlier, this is not my impression at all. As I see it, he would be a long-term replacement for Rakitic. Now the question is, would the pathetic board be willing to sell Rakitic to the highest bidder next summer as they most likely should have done this past summer if the PSG rumors were genuine? I am not so sure.

We already have Arthur as well. Then there is Puig and Aleñá as well.

In an ideal world the board would part company with Rakitic and Busquets next year (at least the former) but it is easier said than done.

De Jong or no De Jong, it's painfully obvious that we need to look for long-term replacements for not only Rakitic but Busquets as well. Unless the club sees Arthur as the longterm replacement of Busquets. I would not be too surprised let alone "angry" if that was the case.

This season the midfield is overbooked once again. Players like Rafinha, D. Suárez, Vidal (I will give him 1 more season at the most) have no business at the club. Rakitic, while overall a good servant for the club, is once again being misused and is being played constantly and he has his best days behind him as well. Busquets is another rather big worry. His level and fitness is declining at a worrying rate. Either he needs a new challenge, a manager that can inspire him to give his last 2-3 seasons at the highest level (at lest 2 seasons) or we will have to look for replacements or tell him that he cannot expect to be a undisputed starter any longer.

I have been very critical of this board for years but one must give credit where credit is due. They have improved their recruitment strategy (and amazingly they seem to have learned, at last, how to sell players, at least some of them) and that gives me some hope in terms of our chances to actually buy not only De Jong next season but de Ligt as well who I see as the bigger talent rather than De Jong and more of a generational talent. A rather fitting long-term replacement for Piqué as well if he continues his development as everything points to.
 
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Luftstalag14

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So as I thought. Just a rumor for now. I can't imagine De Jong wasting his best years at PSG. It would be a shame for him.

Anyway I have no idea if people here watch De Jong week in and week out (I certainly cannot claim that I do) but are people of the opinion that he is/could be a long-term replacement of Busquets? As I wrote earlier, this is not my impression at all. As I see it, he would be a long-term replacement for Rakitic. Now the question is, would the pathetic board be willing to sell Rakitic to the highest bidder next summer as they most likely should have done this past summer if the PSG rumors were genuine? I am not so sure.

We already have Arthur as well. Then there is Puig and Aleñá as well.

In an ideal world the board would part company with Rakitic and Busquets next year (at least the former) but it is easier said than done.

De Jong or no De Jong, it's painfully obvious that we need to look for long-term replacements for not only Rakitic but Busquets as well. Unless the club sees Arthur as the longterm replacement of Busquets. I would not be too surprised let alone "angry" if that was the case.

This season the midfield is overbooked once again. Players like Rafinha, Suárez, Vidal (I will give him 1 more season at the most) have no business at the club. Rakitic, while overall a good servant for the club, is once again being missed and played constantly and he has his best days behind him as well. Busquets is another rather big worry. His level and fitness is declining at a worrying rate. Either he needs a new challenge, a manager that can inspire him to give his last 2-3 seasons at the highest level (at lest 2 seasons) or we will have to look for replacements or tell him that he cannot expect to be a undisputed starter any longer.

I have been very critical of this board for years but one must give credit where credit is due. They have improved their recruitment strategy (and amazingly they seem to have learned, at last, how to sell players, at least some of them) and that gives me some hope in terms of our chances to actually buy not only De Jong next season but de Ligt as well who I see as the bigger talent rather than De Jong and more of a generational talent. A rather fitting long-term replacement for Piqué as well if he continues his development as everything points to.

Do you think Ndombele is Busquets' long term replacement? Who do you think Rakitic's long term replacement is or can be, in addition to De Jong?
 

Leo_Messi

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Do you think Ndombele is Busquets' long term replacement? Who do you think Rakitic's long term replacement is or can be, in addition to De Jong?

From what I have seen of Ndombele and De Jong, the former is the better choice to replace Busquets. I have no idea as I don't watch as much football as I once did (I don't have as much time for that as I did not long ago and work, family, investments, other sports, hobbies all take a toll). However that should be the job of our board and scouts to solve. I do know that there are plenty of talented central midfielders out there. It's usually harder to find the "pure" defensive midfielder talents out there which in part is why I rate Ndombele highly. Not to say that we have a good tradition of buying players who succeed at the club from not only Lyon but Ligue 1 in general. Bartomeu is fluent in French and has a good eye on Ligue 1. With Abidal's arrival this bond will only be strengthened, I imagine.

Before Atlético bought him I rather liked Villareal's Rodri. Although I am not a overly big fan, I could see Pogba succeeding at the club in Rakitic's role. Him being a Galáctico and a mediatic player will suit the board fine as well. Messi seems to have developed a friendship with him as well and he already speaks Spanish rather well. Not to mention our growing French contingent. I could see it happen if the transfer fee is not too inflated.

However I would be more than content with either Ndombele or De Jong as I find it unlikely that the club will part ways with both Busquets and Rakitic next summer as they probably should do if they want to earn a few bucks on their departure. At least in the case of Rakitic. Busquets being a homegrown player, a Catalan and with his status is less likely to be sold anytime soon unless his level decreases completely and he ends up on the bench continuously. I could easily see him retire at the club in the same way that Xavi and Iniesta did. That's probably the most likely scenario.
 
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FC433

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">‼️Desde Francia (RMC) desmienten la información de <a href="https://twitter.com/telegraaf?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@telegraaf</a> y dicen que el <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSG</a> no está dispuesto a pagar 75M. Además afirman que ABIDAL está en permanente contacto con el entorno de Frenkie.<br><br>¿Quien da más?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rumorerumore?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rumorerumore</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mercato?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mercato</a></p>— Adrián Sanchez (@_AdrianSnchz) <a href="https://twitter.com/_AdrianSnchz/status/1071066588424626177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PSG is not willing to pay 75m according to RMC + Abidal is in constant contact with FDJ
 

FCBarca

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I remember saying that his agent will be whoring him to the biggest bidder and @FCBarca replied this is a level-headed kid and his agent is the Jerry Maguire. Now, news comes saying the kid looking for a big payday and his agent even demands a bigger commission for himself. Very disappointing!

I'm ready to jump Pogba or Rabiot wagon if the demand is reasonable.

News or merely more rumours & conjecture, never rise to the bait. Nothing will be decided for awhile still, these are all part of modern negotiating

From the outset, I have contended the player himself will decide where he goes - PSG looks improbable. However, I am less convinced he will choose Barcelona over Pep & City than I was previously.
 

Jair Ventura

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">‼️Desde Francia (RMC) desmienten la información de <a href="https://twitter.com/telegraaf?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@telegraaf</a> y dicen que el <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSG?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSG</a> no está dispuesto a pagar 75M. Además afirman que ABIDAL está en permanente contacto con el entorno de Frenkie.<br><br>¿Quien da más?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/rumorerumore?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#rumorerumore</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mercato?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#mercato</a></p>— Adrián Sanchez (@_AdrianSnchz) <a href="https://twitter.com/_AdrianSnchz/status/1071066588424626177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

PSG is not willing to pay 75m according to RMC + Abidal is in constant contact with FDJ


Spanish media isn't credible.
 

Leo_Messi

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Spanish media isn't credible.

RMC (Radio Monte Carlo) is not "Spanish media". Try again. As if the average media outlet, regardless of country, is any better. Each day lots of nonsense and unfounded rumors are written in the press across all of Spain, Italy, France, England etc. Nothing new.

Not only that, it is very probable that De Jong is in touch with the club. It's no secret that we have been interested for at least 1 year and that the interest has worked both ways. If anything we remain the favorites unless proven wrong.
 

Jair Ventura

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RMC (Radio Monte Carlo) is not "Spanish media". Try again. As if the average media outlet, regardless of country, is any better. Each day lots of nonsense and unfounded rumors are written in the press across all of Spain, Italy, France, England etc. Nothing new.

Not only that, it is very probable that De Jong is in touch with the club. It's no secret that we have been interested for at least 1 year and that the interest has worked both ways. If anything we remain the favorites unless proven wrong.

The Spanish tweet I quoted misrepresented RMC's report.
 
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