They already have Rodri building from the back and Phillips able to run up and down the pitch. And he's not displacing KDB/Foden. Don't think they're interested for the price he'll cost including salary.
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They already have Rodri building from the back and Phillips able to run up and down the pitch. And he's not displacing KDB/Foden. Don't think they're interested for the price he'll cost including salary.
JamDav1982
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Intrigued to see how Pep plays Rodri and Phillips as they are quite similar.
Phillips at Leeds was more known for sitting deep and dictating play with a great range of passing than being any kind of box to box player but he is big, physical and mobile so probably wanting that in team with Fernandinho gone.
Take Phillips in for a year to settle then sell Rodri to Barca when Busi leaves....
Phillips at Leeds was more known for sitting deep and dictating play with a great range of passing than being any kind of box to box player but he is big, physical and mobile so probably wanting that in team with Fernandinho gone.
Take Phillips in for a year to settle then sell Rodri to Barca when Busi leaves....
Temptation
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Probably as backup for Rodri?? Philips is a bit more mobile than Rodri and has a better long ball but Rodri will obviously start the crucial games.
Since Sterling is leaving, they wanted another English player for the homegrown quota.
I agree. The player has a contract, he didn't cheat or deceive the club into giving him that money.
Also, news now him not leaving for MU yet is because Bar?a have still not paid what was owed after deferral of wages. It is understandable from his point of view. Add to that he enjoys a good quality of life in Barcelona with his miss and Bar?a are competing for CL, would you willingly leave ?
JamDav1982
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Romero saying Chelsea have 'warmed up' for Frenkie.
Most of us wanted a swap deal.. involving Bernardo. Imagine if we end up with a swap deal involving Alonso and Azpi
Chelsea trying for MDL also.. maybe they think FDJ being there helps with that but couls easy be Barca rumours with no substance.
Givenchy
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Potentially, Jorginho to Juve + money for MDL, leaving a space in midfield for Frenkie?
FinBarcelonafan
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United fans shitting their pants now. Pay up United or fuck off.
Chelsea is happy to pay.
Chelsea is happy to pay.
JerseyAddict
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I think Barcelona players are overpaid, all of them, and yes they should all take pay cuts, but we all have to get it by now that it comes to big money now. The club owes big money to players and at some moment they won't cut it Why should they? They took pay cuts, they took installments, deductions, revisions, but in one moment they see that this is an endless pit... and it is, in the end not their problem... it is Barto's, or now Laporta's.
I am talking about players that have played. Not some leech benchwarmers that want to parade in Barca colors... those leeches deserve the boot in the ass.
I am talking about players that have played. Not some leech benchwarmers that want to parade in Barca colors... those leeches deserve the boot in the ass.
Birdy
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SAme old crap.
You keep strawmaning pretending the reason players should reduce is the 'love of the club'
The reason they should reduce is the new wage structure the new administration is imposing and the fact that the club is bankrupt.
Again, you never fail to show how bad your logic is.
You are too old maybe for that, but a LogiC 101 course would suit you well, you will learn the basics of arguing w/o committing one logical fallacy after another
Lastly, Frenkie and Captain's situation is not comparable as everyone here told you.
Frenkie is sellable assets, the others are not.
So, if you keep employing that comparison, you are committing more logical fallacies, your specialty
It's not as simple as that.
He is not legally obliged, but at the same time some things happened:
1) club got bankrupt
2) there has been elections, there has been a new administration
3) the new administration has made it clear there is a new wage structure in which no player gets more than 10m net / year
4) they have shifted every squad member towards their new wage structure, new signings included
All that means that it's not as simple as 'being legally obliged' to do X
It's not as if Barto is still around and these contracts are being handed to everyone
He will be forced to do it, not legally but pragmatically.
He can't whistle around indifferently for long, the pressure on him will be huge in a few weeks
And if you look the players the club wanted to move (and Could be moved) due to their wages, ALL got moved in the end.
Suarez out, Rakitic out, Griezman out, Coutinho out, Messi out (even if they said they wanted him to renew), Dembele out
The same route will take Frenkie if he doesn't reduce his salary
Each of them could sit on their contracts and pretend it's ok, by they didn't.
It takes a huge amount of indecency and belittling your integrity to do so. Only someone like Bale who doesn't care about playing football, and Umtiti who is bad and done enough so that no team around wants him, could take that road...
JamDav1982
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Nah no strawman involved.
FDJ is same as others if the claim is should reduce salary for 'love of the club'. Usual clueless nonsense from folk that embarrass themselves with arrogant/inane takes time and again.
No one is saying the other players can be sold... that is you lack of reading comprehension and basic understanding of situation as is the same case every time you get schooled on these wee debates.
Just birdy chirping up and reading situation wrong as has happened in every debate we have had.
Latest one being Liverpools structure you arrogantly got so wrong as usual and 'Salah will be gone in 2023 as Liverpool are bestest run in whole wide world with a wage structure they wont break'
This is latest one.
Jesus wept imagine typing 'club got bankrupt'.
Levels.
You are type of numpty that claims players should show they 'love' club by taking less money and in next hand think club should send likes of Dembele to stand to 'teach the lad a lesson' for not signing contract club want him to when they want him to.
Oh the arrogance how you claimed 'he will never play again'
Sensational.
Genuinely you have not one single idea what you are going on about and come across as a combination of arrogant and simple.
FDJ is same as others if the claim is should reduce salary for 'love of the club'. Usual clueless nonsense from folk that embarrass themselves with arrogant/inane takes time and again.
No one is saying the other players can be sold... that is you lack of reading comprehension and basic understanding of situation as is the same case every time you get schooled on these wee debates.
Just birdy chirping up and reading situation wrong as has happened in every debate we have had.
Latest one being Liverpools structure you arrogantly got so wrong as usual and 'Salah will be gone in 2023 as Liverpool are bestest run in whole wide world with a wage structure they wont break'
This is latest one.
Jesus wept imagine typing 'club got bankrupt'.
Levels.
You are type of numpty that claims players should show they 'love' club by taking less money and in next hand think club should send likes of Dembele to stand to 'teach the lad a lesson' for not signing contract club want him to when they want him to.
Oh the arrogance how you claimed 'he will never play again'
Sensational.
Genuinely you have not one single idea what you are going on about and come across as a combination of arrogant and simple.
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Birdy
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Hahaha
typical Jammy evading all the points when he is cornered and can't reply...
Tons of strawmans and logical fallacies btw, but your inflated ego doesn't allow you to see them
BTW, what did I say wrong about Liverpool's structure?
They have the most rigid wage structure in Europe. Did you first hear that from me? LOL
Google it and you will find tons of articles talking about it
Lastly, since you can't read clearly.
I never said players should reduce because 'love of the club', but because of the new wage structure and bankrupt condition.
the 'love of the club' is sth romero romano and canut attributed to Frenkie, and I made fun of that as it's clearly hypocritical and BS from Frenkie's part.
But to understand that, you need first to be able to read, which you can't
PS: Inane is your last name mate
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JamDav1982
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Aye 'evading'.
That is why get it right every time we debate on every subject. This is latest one.
You arrogantly claimed Liverpool wouldnt break stcucture for Salah... I said they will wait and see.
Jammie right as per usual and simple Birdy wrong again.
That is why get it right every time we debate on every subject. This is latest one.
You arrogantly claimed Liverpool wouldnt break stcucture for Salah... I said they will wait and see.
Jammie right as per usual and simple Birdy wrong again.
JamDav1982
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Birdy.. 'At this point the only act proving love for the club is drastic reduction of salary'.
Few posts later Birdy 'You keep strawmaning pretending the reason players should reduce is the 'love of the club'
Then thinks it is smart to burp out the words 'logical fallacies' when has no idea what it means.
This is level of drivel and backed up by being wrong every time.
From Dembele to Salah and now FDJ. Calls it wrong and has no idea about situation being discussed.
Few posts later Birdy 'You keep strawmaning pretending the reason players should reduce is the 'love of the club'
Then thinks it is smart to burp out the words 'logical fallacies' when has no idea what it means.
This is level of drivel and backed up by being wrong every time.
From Dembele to Salah and now FDJ. Calls it wrong and has no idea about situation being discussed.
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