Gerard Deulofeu

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Mike the Knife
BBZ8800 said:
Deulofeu will probably never be a NT caliber.
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Absolutely ignorant statement, Gerard has played and excelled at every NT level for Spain...Even came close to being called to the WC for the senior team...Everyone in Spain knows what sort of quality the player has
 
DonAK

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
You're talking to the guy who said the reason we didn't win the CL was because of Alexis Sanchez. Forget uncertainty regarding Tito when he flew to NYC for his treatement, forget the various injuries, forget Tata Martino's management along with all our players form, we didn't win it because of Alexis Sanchez.
 
BBZ8800

BBZ8800

Senior Member
DonAK said:
You're talking to the guy who said the reason we didn't win the CL was because of Alexis Sanchez. Forget uncertainty regarding Tito when he flew to NYC for his treatement, forget the various injuries, forget Tata Martino's management along with all our players form, we didn't win it because of Alexis Sanchez.
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Yes.
Just watch Alexis Sanchez and how he will perform in Arsenal this Season.

It is not that simple, that we didn't win CL ONLY because of Sanchez, but it was almost an impossible mission to win anything bigger with players like Sanchez in our starting line up.

Anyway, just wait and see and count how many times he will slip and fail in important matches for Arsenal this Season.

Sanchez gone, Fabregas gone, Suarez in, a new coach in, some tactical changes, some changes to the approach.
And the CL will come very soon.

Luckily, we don't have to wonder anymore if we are slipping in the CL because of tactical and approach/motivation mistakes, or because of players like Sanchez in our team. Or both.

If we will win it soon (and I believe that we will), guys like you will always say that it was because of 1000s of changes in everything regarding our team.
I will always say that it WAS because of a lot of changes, but "Suarez in, and Alexis out", is one of the key changes.
And 999 other tactical changes wouldn't help, if we would have kept Alexis in our starting 11.

:champions::barca scarf: Enjoy
 
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BBZ8800

BBZ8800

Senior Member
FCBarca said:
Absolutely ignorant statement, Gerard has played and excelled at every NT level for Spain...Even came close to being called to the WC for the senior team...Everyone in Spain knows what sort of quality the player has
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It is "somewhat easier" to be a NT level when you are younger.
To enter a U-16 NT team, you need to be the best between boys aged 15 and 16 years.
To enter a U-18 NT team, you need to be the best between boys aged 16-17-18 years.

To enter a senior NT team, you have to be among 3-4-5 top forwards in your country among players aged 17-18-19-20-21-22-23-24-25-26-27-28-29-30-31-32-33-34-35 years.

The same is on the club level.
In youth ranks you have to "beat" only guys of your age.
In senior ranks, you "fight" with other guys (who were the best in their generation in the past, the same as you are now).
But you are "fighting" with 10-12-14-15 different generations.

So, shorter:
1. to enter a youth NT team, you have to be in top 3-4 forwards of your generation (plus, your all forward opponents/teammates are equally as unexperienced as you) = against 3-4 young players
2. to enter a senior NT team, you are fighting against 3-4 top forwards from 15 different generations (plus, guys from older generations also have a lot more experience on a club and NT level than you, so again they have some advantage over you currently)
= against 45-60 top players

Also, in youth NT teams, you are playing against 17-18 years old defenders.
And in a senior NT team, you are playing against 25-30-35 year old defenders.

This is why a lot of players are gems in youth NTs, and later they disappear.
There is a huge difference in quality between youth and senior club football and NT football.
 
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FCBarca

FCBarca

Mike the Knife
You're talking rubbish, there isn't a Spanish youth player apart from Xavi that has thrived at every NT level like Deulofeu has...Not just featured but thrived...So talk of not having quality for the NT is absolutely ignorant...He's an immense talent and everyone in Spain knows this
 
jamrock

jamrock

Senior Member
delou not tops for the spanish youth teams :hooray:

the one time he didn't play up to his normal best for the spanish youth teams, was at the U20 world cup, and we all saw what happened to the team then. because he was the one basically carrying the team to victory from U17 level.

Delou is a potentially world class talent and everyone in spain, who has sense knows this
 
Catta

Catta

Senior Member
BBZ8800 said:
it was almost an impossible mission to win anything bigger with players like Sanchez in our starting line up.
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and still we won the CL with a crap player like pedro in our starting line up
its not about the players its how the team plays
 
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