Gerardo "Tata" Martino

Henry_IB

Henry_IB

Banned
Pep left shoes I don't think anyone can ever fill and I think people are not taking that into proper consideration.

We're not the same team we were 3 years ago. I like Tata and even if we don't win a single trophy this year (super-cup doesn't count) I'd like to see him stay another season at least.

People seem to think De Boer or Luis Enrique are the next Pep who'll instantly bring the same or similar success as Pep did based only on the fact that they have played for the club and is now also couching.

Pep, Barca and the timing were a match made in heaven, miracles rarely happen twice.
 
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Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
I don't understand what people want from Martino. No other manager and I say this with full confidence that no other manager would have been able to do a better job with the resources at hand. Lets assess the deficiencies we have:
1) Lack of defensive depth,height and quality that a team of this stature should have
2) No one to replace the 2 important pieces in midfield i.e Busi and Xavi (when the former is off form and the latter is unable to play ever match)
3) Players who can't be motivated as they have won everything possibly there to win (though this is debatable)
4) Our best team XI playing barely 15 matches all season (At least one was injured in most games Messi 2 months, Neymar a few weeks, Jordi Alba full first half, Valdez end of 2013)
5) Instability within the club with Neymar transfer, Rosell resignation, Faus running his worthless mouth, Physio close to many players being fired (allegedly causing disturbance in the dressing room)
6) Tata's every step being criticized horrendously. The same fans asking for a Plan B last season were on his back when Rayo had 1% more possession than us despite a 4-0 scoreline.
7) Everything wrong with the club being blamed blindly on Tata and people ask for Luis Enrique and De Boer? What the hell have they done to warrant a managerial spot at Barca? Just because they were Barca players that makes then Pep's second coming? At least Tata had some pedigree he almost knocked out Spain with a Paraguay team no one gave a chance, South American coach of the year, led Newell's Old Boys to Argentine League Title.
Tata has done a great job since coming to Barca and has been handed shit every step of the way instead of the praise he warrants
 
Stric

Stric

New member
I think the majority of supporters takes for granted what Tata managed to do here in his first year. I think his biggest achievement is getting some of our players to perform at a level a lot of us probably thought they couldn't reach.
 
Chainsaw

Chainsaw

Killahead
Henry_IB said:
Pep left shoes I don't think anyone can ever fill and I think people are not taking that into proper consideration.

We're not the same team we were 3 years ago. I like Tata and even if we don't win a single trophy this year (super-cup doesn't count) I'd like to see him stay another season at least.

People seem to think De Boer or Luis Enrique are the next Pep who'll instantly bring the same or similar success as Pep did based only on the fact that they have played for the club and is now also couching.

Pep, Barca and the timing were a match made in heaven, miracles rarely happen twice.
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I think not even the ones who are criticizing Tata now exactly know what they want. They go like: "Pep this, Pep that", "stick to tiki-taka", "sell this, sell that blah blah"...but in fact not even Pep's team was that sharp in his last year. Tiki-taka has become so dull, sluggish and predictable that many times it striked back as Barca's worst enemy, truly become painful to watch and ineffective at the same time. The team needed changes cause they've become predictable to the opponents more and more. And now that someone tries to make changes the same ones come out saying the team should stick to tiki-taka!

I think Tata, is doing a good job in his first year despite making mistakes in some matches. But not even Pep was as flawless as some here trying to picture him now that he's gone. Even Pep was late with his subs in many matches. His stubbornness with 3 men defence in his last year clearly didn't work out in many matches leaving the defence quite vulnerable.

The team needs reinforcements, specially the defence. If Tata is given a fair chance to build the team the way he wants and try to fill the holes in the team then we can truly judge him. Not now that he makes some mistakes and people quickly go like "Luis Enrique is the answer", "this team just needs a motivator blah blah"!
 
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forcabarca

Guest
Barça stuff- Wish list Tata Martino handed to Barcelona in October: Subotic, Vergini, Doria, Filipe Luis, Gundogan, Arda Turan, Aguero, Klose [espnbr]

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instinct

Guest
forcabarca said:
Barça stuff- Wish list Tata Martino handed to Barcelona in October: Subotic, Vergini, Doria, Filipe Luis, Gundogan, Arda Turan, Aguero, Klose [espnbr]
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Filipe Luis and Turan would be too expensive. Turan's contract lasts till 2017 such as Luis' and Atletico won't let two of their key players go without getting a ridiculous amount of money.
Subotic and Gündogan are out for several months (at least Subotic and Gündogan didn't play since 1975), Agüero would cost at least 50m. Klose is too old and why should he warm the bench here if he gets a guarantee in Lazio? And didn't he just extended his contract?

Don't know much of the other players but if they're good and cheap, why not
 
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FCBblaug

Guest
DonAK said:
Hmm.... who's on your list?
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First off scrap off vergini. He is average at best. Then felipe luiz, he is excellent but not needed, turan is a winger so him too.

My list would then be
Benatia, musacchio, mangala, vidal, gundogan,kroos, danilo,
 
Cule4life

Cule4life

The Culest
Flavia said:
Just saw this on espn. If true, nice choices.
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Mixed list tbh. Subotic, Gundogan, Doria are good choices.(Obviously depending on the recovery form injuries)
But the rest are horrible

Turan and Filipe- Yeah lets follow the example of Bayern and destroy our competition. Not to mention they will be very expensive and are not even needed
Vergini- Not Barca quality
Aguero- Unrealistic. Thiago Silva 2.0
Klose- Past his prme. Go for Mandzukic or jackson Martinez
 
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