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Flavia
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He's limited. I don't think he can do better. Argentina need to find a better coach asap.
Gerardo "Tata" Martino
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He's limited. I don't think he can do better. Argentina need to find a better coach asap.
Chainsaw
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Have you watched Argentina in the World Cup by any chance? They didn't exactly steamroll the opponents. Stop blaming Tata for everything. And what's wrong with Biglia? His contribution is essential for the midfield. He does the dirty work and help Mascherano in closing down the holes. There is no one like him in the squad and he was missed in the first match, specially in the second half when the midfield was overrun.
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Flavia
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There were many injury problems in the wc. But during the qualifiers Argentina was pretty good.
Younes Lamrani
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He's on a mission to stop Messi form collecting too many trophies.
So sad but it's the truth !
spark
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Nothing wrong with Biglia tbf, hes a class player. Only question mark is whether he is in form following injury.
AnnieSureshot
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I did mean Lucho was learning from his mistakes, not Tata...
(Like for example he learned that Neymar shall not be substituted
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AnnieSureshot
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Sorry, are you talking to me?
DonAndres
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When you have a player like Banega (who does his fair share of pressing/defensive work), it's almost a given that you play him. It was visible that the left flank was lacking going forward because of the combo of Biglia/Di Maria, things were disjointed. The teamplay was close to isolating Messi and yet that sacrifice didn't even lead to better defensive play. Tata's tactics are wrong and his subs are either wrong or late. It shouldn't be a struggle for a team like Argentina to beat Paraguay or Uruguay without Suarez.
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it was a Tata-directed comment. Sorry if it seemed like it was meant for you.
AnnieSureshot
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No
No probs
He's admitted to not being completely match fit. But I'd rather a 70% Biglia who I know will not stop running for the team, over Ever "I go on my attacking adventures and leave the MF exposed" Banega or Fernando glass-made Gago.
Blaugrana Bull
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I do not know what Tata is doing. The line-up changes are so obvious. This is not about someone like Di Maria (who should see the bench also) who plays horrible but about playing styles and it is beyond me how Tata does not realize that his team needs different kinds of players in midfield.
Argentina is attacking all game basically and every opponent is simply trying to avoid to get exposed by the incredible individual talents upfront. So why are there two holding mids? Please do not come up with it "Biglia brings balance" because in the type of games Argentina is playing in this Copa it is simply not true. He could play an important role against a team like Chile who play attacking football, want to keep the ball and press all the time but Biglia is redundant besides Masche.
Banega is the perfect replacement. He plays kind of a false 10, an attacking mid that drops deeper and likes to orchestrate play which would allow quicker play from the back and would allow Pastore and Messi to connect midfield and attack. Without a player like him there are too much moments where Argentina's attacks become to slow and static or guys like Garay simply kick the ball away under pressure because there is no one in front of him who is able to receive passes under pressure.
Tata stands on the sideline and watches this shit for 80 minutes knowing that there will be no extra time. Of course he is not responsible for scoring (Argentina had chances) but you can not expect to win every game by scoring from let's say 2 good opportunities. You need to have more of them if you control such large parts of the game.
For me this line-up would mean that Argentina would definitely be able to apply a huge amount of pressure all 90 mins: Romero - Zabaleta, Garay, Otamendi, Rojo - Masche, Banega, Pastore - Messi, Agüero (debatable), Lavezzi (because Di Maria is awful right now)
Maybe even Masche for Garay and Biglia besides Banega in midfield but that could be too big of a risk. The squad could be not used to playing without Masche in midfield.
Anyway, what I am trying to say is that there it would be very simple to make almost 100% sure that Argentina would create much more scoring chances without losing control of the game and being exposed at the back.
Argentina is attacking all game basically and every opponent is simply trying to avoid to get exposed by the incredible individual talents upfront. So why are there two holding mids? Please do not come up with it "Biglia brings balance" because in the type of games Argentina is playing in this Copa it is simply not true. He could play an important role against a team like Chile who play attacking football, want to keep the ball and press all the time but Biglia is redundant besides Masche.
Banega is the perfect replacement. He plays kind of a false 10, an attacking mid that drops deeper and likes to orchestrate play which would allow quicker play from the back and would allow Pastore and Messi to connect midfield and attack. Without a player like him there are too much moments where Argentina's attacks become to slow and static or guys like Garay simply kick the ball away under pressure because there is no one in front of him who is able to receive passes under pressure.
Tata stands on the sideline and watches this shit for 80 minutes knowing that there will be no extra time. Of course he is not responsible for scoring (Argentina had chances) but you can not expect to win every game by scoring from let's say 2 good opportunities. You need to have more of them if you control such large parts of the game.
For me this line-up would mean that Argentina would definitely be able to apply a huge amount of pressure all 90 mins: Romero - Zabaleta, Garay, Otamendi, Rojo - Masche, Banega, Pastore - Messi, Agüero (debatable), Lavezzi (because Di Maria is awful right now)
Maybe even Masche for Garay and Biglia besides Banega in midfield but that could be too big of a risk. The squad could be not used to playing without Masche in midfield.
Anyway, what I am trying to say is that there it would be very simple to make almost 100% sure that Argentina would create much more scoring chances without losing control of the game and being exposed at the back.
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