Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?

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companyofcules

companyofcules

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You don't believe it try understanding why Netherlands failed while having great midfielders for decades.
Nah, Xavi is not top 15, you are a bunch of young trolls repeating nonsense from web. Try to take it slow and reasonable. You can't ignore the people that were clutch and saved our ass for Xavi statpading passes in a well established system.
I love that but that is only the base of our game, not the best.
He was our best holding mid in history and that's all.
 
Birdy

Birdy

Senior Member
BJJ said:
I'm just glad he's gone. There's more optimism now. Xavi was toxic. Almost a mini Mourinho. Laporta really gave him too much leeway. Him saying that we were too big for the EL is laughable. His excuses, whining and meltdowns were more fit for a B grade Spanish soap.
Just imagine another season where he'd complain about the squad, pitch, referees etc
No thanks. I hope he finds his way to Utd. That would be worth watching. The meltdowns in Red Cafe would be epic!!!
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Even players, now that he is gone, admit he was toxic
Look at what Pedri said the other day:

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Pedri: "The atmosphere with Flick?With Xavi it was all criticism, everything seemed to be going badly and now everything is calmer. He doesn't get so much criticism in the media and he has brought a sense of seriousness, although he's also a bit of a joker and he's close to the
 
Barcaman

Barcaman

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companyofcules said:
Smart nazis making assessments of complex issues will never appear. :)
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Not the brightest argument. They built the rocket that took US to moon plus bunch of other stuff that your communists stole when they steamrolled Eastern Europe.

Your football "insights" pertaining you are more knowledgable because watched old Barca are shady and laughable.
 
Horatio

Horatio

You're welcome
Birdy said:
Even players, now that he is gone, admit he was toxic
Look at what Pedri said the other day:

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Sep 4

Pedri: "The atmosphere with Flick?With Xavi it was all criticism, everything seemed to be going badly and now everything is calmer. He doesn't get so much criticism in the media and he has brought a sense of seriousness, although he's also a bit of a joker and he's close to the
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Not what pedri is saying. He’s talking about the attitude of the media, not Xavi.

Then leave it to twitter account to translate it in such a way it leaves certain parts ambiguous and have people run wild.
 
iniestaGOAT

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
companyofcules said:
Kid, shut your mouth. Xavi is not top 15.
He is just a catalan who had 3 golden generation in his time and was a good holding midfielder, but nothing so special.
This is overhyping due to the national team by low cost journalists and 15 years old mouth breeders.

Laudrup was way better than Xavi and I can name only Puyol and Koeman and there goes your top 3 to toilet. add Alves top 4, Iniesta, top 5, Cruyff top 6, Kubala top 7, Ronaldinho top 8, Villa top 9, Valdes top 10, Messi top 11, Luis Suarez v1 top 12, Hristo top 13, Alcántara top 14, Neymar top 15, Luis Suarez v2 top 16, Eto'o top 17, Busquets top 18, Rivaldo top 19, Romario top 20.
Without Figo, R9 or Maradona who acieved "little".
And before you start yapping Valdes won us a UCL
Villa way better in WC and was absolutely a monster in Barcelona, one of the best individual performances, he was great at Valencia
Busquets had more talent and is arguably the best mid ever in his position in his prime 3 years.
Alves actually had the link with Messi and his abilities were way more superior.
Xavi rivalry is with Deco, both back then and both in his coaching years.
Bet he didn't let it go Deco benched him in his prime.
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Put the crack down lil bro
 
companyofcules

companyofcules

Well-known member
Barcaman said:
Not the brightest argument. They built the rocket that took US to moon plus bunch of other stuff that your communists stole when they steamrolled Eastern Europe.

Your football "insights" pertaining you are more knowledgable because watched old Barca are shady and laughable.
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My communists. You sound like the muricans here, everyone they don't get are quite the communists. I only ever liked some thinkers on the left on a partial note. From Russia only Bakunin in certain aspects that make the UN the laughing stoke of politics. Don't remind him crushing Germany nor my kind in his circles.
As for the tiny brains I will only respond in that section when I will have the right. Pass me the right and I will tell you why are you wrong rockets involved.
No, I don't know much about football, but I do know what works for Barcelona
Watching your team struggle for 10 years and then having 10 years of glory makes you identify some patterns.
That is the only benefit and not falling for the clap-trap.
Yeah, Xavi was good as holding mid, but we rarely had problems with possession, but with winning big time.
What changed were indeed the players but not that much in midfield but in attack and even in defense.
So excuse me that I rate those players higher but is not because I hate the possession but I know it's limitations.
 
companyofcules

companyofcules

Well-known member
Btw Barcelona were quite the anarchists if you remember and some communists too, but mostly socialists. The good clubs are Atletico for a period and Real, sporting a henchman of the regime.
 
companyofcules

companyofcules

Well-known member
And I defended Pedri when people wanted him out. I am not against holding mids. Defended FDJ too when people pull out the stats on him. Never I will go against Xavi like players but for what I know I also defend them because I know their limitations and the expectations are more like from Messi type player than a holding midfielder.
You can argue they will never be Xavi level, but in 2002 neither Xavi was Balon d'or material.
 
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