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KingLeo10
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Suarez had the biting incident that hurt his standing with FIFA
He won us the City and PSG away games in CL KOs on his own practically.
Scored the winning goal in CL final v Juve. Bullied Bayern in the away game and ended Benatia.
Lewa wasn't in Suarez's class in Suarez's prime. Lewa has had much better longevity though, no doubt.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Mueller over 2015-Iniesta 🤣🤣
Temptation
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Suarez had the biting incident that hurt his standing with FIFA
He won us the City and PSG away games in CL KOs on his own practically.
Scored the winning goal in CL final v Juve. Bullied Bayern in the away game and ended Benatia.
Lewa wasn't in Suarez's class in Suarez's prime. Lewa has had much better longevity though, no doubt.
That year wasn't even close to Robert's prime though. Definitely not miles clear even though Suarez was the best striker in 2015 or 2016.
Suarez wouldn't finish 5th if the establishment blacklisted him. It's a pretty high ranking.
Temptation
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That's Muller's peak but not Iniesta's.
Consistency throughout the year counts.
Iniesta was heading towards the twilight of his career at the elite level.
KingLeo10
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Aye, the Ballon D'Or ranking here is the gospel when it suits your narrative, but you and your lackeys have a cry about it on the daily for other agendas
Temptation
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Not really. No one is presenting it as the gospel truth. It's just a representation of the group of best players in that year.Aye, the Ballon D'Or ranking here is the gospel when it suits your narrative, but you and your lackeys have a cry about it on the daily for other agendas
Even if you swapped the rankings, it isn't "miles clear" like you stated. That's my point.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Yeah but it should only count the year 2015 for 2015-ballon dor and Iniesta was unplayable in second half of 14/15 season + first half of 15/16 season, was probably best midfield player in the world 💯
Temptation
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Well, he is the highest ranked midfielder on the list. Look carefully.
KingLeo10
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Suarez won us one of the peak Clasicos of the time. This effectively ended the league.
Won the City and PSG away KO ties on his own.
Scored winning goal in CL final v Juve.
His overall play was just miles clear off anybody else (including Benz, Lewa) in the 2014-16 period.
Benz's absolute peak of 19-21 and Lewa's absolute peak of 19-21 and whether these are better than Suarez's absolute peak is a worthy debate though.
Won the City and PSG away KO ties on his own.
Scored winning goal in CL final v Juve.
His overall play was just miles clear off anybody else (including Benz, Lewa) in the 2014-16 period.
Benz's absolute peak of 19-21 and Lewa's absolute peak of 19-21 and whether these are better than Suarez's absolute peak is a worthy debate though.
Fati_Future_BallonDor
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Speaking about ballon dors i had just found this pic, it was the highest gap in ballon dor history between the first and second winner.
Winning the first title ever for Portugal + Cl were the reason for this massive win 💯🔥
Winning the first title ever for Portugal + Cl were the reason for this massive win 💯🔥
Temptation
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The mental gymnastics and excuses given for Messi's best mates are crazy. 😂
Meanwhile Neymar gets none of that love from Messi's fanbase because he left Barca to lead his own team.
Meanwhile Neymar gets none of that love from Messi's fanbase because he left Barca to lead his own team.
KingLeo10
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The only mental gymnastics going on here are you twerking for Lewa who has never associated with Liverpool in ANY capacity while looking for opportunities to diminish Suarez who was one of Liverpool's best players of the last 15 years.
Meanwhile, I'm a Barca fan praising Suarez over Lewa because Suarez contributed more to this club so far
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