Hans-Dieter Flick

[jamrock]

Hanging your hat on the champions League is risky business.

What are we real Madrid

 

[jamrock]

Once you deny his teams space to run into, half of his system falls apart, once he gets into the business end of the CL and teams start to set back it will be a massive struggle for him.

 

[serghei]

If Flick will continue to do well in CL that would be ok for me, LL is a great bonus not a must.

Not having the pressure of topping LL table might also boost performances in CL where it really matters. We didn't seem to be having a chance to win CL since fucking 2018...

Do well as in winning? Or ending up with no silverware?

There's a massive difference between a win and nothing.

 

[Messi983]

Barca can't win CL the Madrid way. We first need to dominate domestic.

 

[serghei]

Barca can't win CL the Madrid way. We first need to dominate domestic.

There's a first time for everything.

 

[serghei]

Once you deny his teams space to run into, half of his system falls apart, once he gets into the business end of the CL and teams start to set back it will be a massive struggle for him.

Very few teams in CL are top in defense. This is our big chance.

It's difficult to set up a mean defense if you don't practice it very often. The top defensive sides are drilled in this way of playing by constant repetition.

 

[Messi983]

There's a first time for everything.

nah, not for this team

 

[mc_lovin]

Yeah, but Barca is not Dortmund.

Not yet. But apparently a significant part of the fanbase is okay with our results, cause we play nice football

 

[serghei]

Not yet. But apparently a significant part of the fanbase is okay with our results, cause we play nice football

I don't agree with it if it becomes a long lasting trend.

The part I don't agree with is not backing the manager and giving him some time to fix the issues. We know what the problems are and we now need to let the man work on these. Next season such results in the league would be a lot more worrisome.

 

[Messi983]

I don't agree with it if it becomes a long lasting trend.

40% of the season is not a long lasting trend?

 

[Ter Stature]

Yeah, but Barca is not Dortmund.

Best post in the thread.

Barcas ambition can not be to be Dirtmund or Spuds, who are laughed at everywhere.
If it gets to that point there is no coming back.
A CL final is meaningless without domestic trophies.

 

[serghei]

40% of the season is not a long lasting trend?

Sometimes not even a season is not enough for me if you do well in other areas except for the league.

We are yet to establish if this is not simply a case of a team in progress and a new manager adapting to a foreign league. 1 season of adapting is the least we can give Flick to see what he's up to.

Comparing us to likes of Arsenal, Tottenham, or Dortmund is not relevant, because these clubs got used to winning nothing of note for multiple seasons in a row.

 

[mc_lovin]

Sometimes not even a season is not enough for me if you do well in other areas except for the league.

League is always always always priority numero uno. He sucks ass so far.

 

[serghei]

League is always always always priority numero uno. He sucks ass so far.

Yes. And Klopp finished 8th or something at first at Liverpool. Pep slow start at City too.

 

[Messi983]

Sometimes not even a season is not enough for me if you do well in other areas except for the league.

What does doing well in other areas mean though?