Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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MontenegrinCuler

Well-known member
Calm down daamn

We will finish in the top 2 and our chances for the leaders position is still existent. Madrid does not play convincing football and teams with any tactical structure usually take advantage over their problems. Atletico also prone to dropping points here and there. Bilbao is literally shit they are 4th only because the rest of Liga is shit as well... Nothing special and nothing extraordinary.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Calm down daamn

We will finish in the top 2 and our chances for the leaders position is still existent. Madrid does not play convincing football and teams with any tactical structure usually take advantage over their problems. Atletico also prone to dropping points here and there. Bilbao is literally shit they are 4th only because the rest of Liga is shit as well... Nothing special and nothing extraordinary.
We will not win the League mate. Make your peace with it.

2nd or 3rd doesn't matter.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
Gone are the days when RM fans used to say that they don’t care about LaLiga…
Real Madrid fans should be silent. In terms of quality of play over the last 10 -15 years they have been the best team in the world or in the top 2 maybe 1-3 times, while winning 7 Champions League titles.

Zidane's Real have won 3 champions league titles in a row. Ask Real fans - do they remember with warmth the quality of Real's play during that period of time.
 

serghei

Senior Member
The team creates more chances compared to Xavi's. That's why we have the illusion the team is up to something big.

Yes, at the cost of much more defensive vulnerability. The entire idea is for the trade-off to make sense in terms of points totals. If it doesn't, than your plan did not function.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Yes, at the cost of much more defensive vulnerability. The entire idea is for the trade-off to make sense in terms of points totals. If it doesn't, than your plan did not function.
It's also really a natural progression.

We have seen under Xavi in instances everything that's working under Flick now. Raphs form and positionm, Yamal becoming worldclass (there's no difference between Flicks Yamal and Spains for example)... even the Bayern game/result was in the making. Flick just gets the credit for this, while being completely shit otherwise.
 

serghei

Senior Member
It's also really a natural progression.

We have seen under Xavi in instances everything that's working under Flick now. Raphs form and positionm, Yamal becoming worldclass (there's no difference between Flicks Yamal and Spains for example)... even the Bayern game/result was in the making. Flick just gets the credit for this, while being completely shit otherwise.

I think he did bring several important things in the team, but the improvement is not all the way like some believe.

There's some things I don't like about Flick that I liked about Xavi and viceversa, both in terms of tactics, but also in terms of personality, mentality and so on. It's hard to compare because they are very different.
 

MontenegrinCuler

Well-known member
It's also really a natural progression.

We have seen under Xavi in instances everything that's working under Flick now. Raphs form and positionm, Yamal becoming worldclass (there's no difference between Flicks Yamal and Spains for example)... even the Bayern game/result was in the making. Flick just gets the credit for this, while being completely shit otherwise.
Yeees

Xavi would trash Real Madrid two times and Bayern too. He would win the Supercup and he would totally not be out of the top24 in the UCL by now. Raphinha would be one of the best players in Europe and Lewandowski would be the top scorer in all competitions. He would be first in the league and we would be on our way to the sextuple.

Easy to talk shit when you have no background to back it up. I could as well say Erik Ten Hag would win us UCL if we signed him now and you can't possibly know if that is true or not.

I know that Xavi openly admitted he has absolutely no belief in the players and he had zero ambitions for the next season which is why it was best for everyone to just sack him and get a new manager. Unsurprisingly his fanboys now fart about what could have been, should have been but it's irrelevant because he had enough time to prove himself and did not do it.
 

MontenegrinCuler

Well-known member
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They would choose the one that's 7 points ahead of us right now.
Key word: right now.

What do you think is more sustainable?
Shit football and solid results (in a sense that they are not so good either, just better than those of your opponent)
Or
Good football and bad results
 

serghei

Senior Member
Madrid don't play shite football though. No teams gets 2 CLs in 3 years by playing shite football. That's a nonsense claim.

Also a 4-0 in El Clasico doesn't mean THAT much. Xavi also beat them 4-0 on Bernabeu having a shittier team in his first season. The thing that matters most is being a champion.
 

MontenegrinCuler

Well-known member
Madrid don't play shite football though. No teams gets 2 CLs in 3 years by playing shite football. That's a nonsense claim. Also a 4-0 in El Clasico doesn't mean THAT much. Xavi also beat them 4-0 on Bernabeu having a shittier team.
We are talking strictly about this season because it's the only thing that matters in this discussion. And yes their football is very, very shit this season and it doesn't even have the winning mentality behind it that bailed them out in previous seasons. They couldn't win against any serious opponent this season and the only comeback they've had this season is against Dortmund in UCL. Other than that failed remontadas multiple times in the league which clearly shows they lost the desire they previously had.

I don't know how you can say their football is not shit. This Las Palmas game was one of the few games this season that I remember they didn't struggle so much. And even there they conceded in the first minute then got a penalty and turned it around. Celta was outplaying them for 105 minutes until they couldn't cope up physically no more lol. Not even Madrid fans would claim they play good football but here are Barca fans trying to convince us about that.
 

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