Hans-Dieter Flick

Hansi Flick - how do we rate him?


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RedxMAK

Active member
Real Madrid fans should be silent. In terms of quality of play over the last 10 -15 years they have been the best team in the world or in the top 2 maybe 1-3 times, while winning 7 Champions League titles.

Zidane's Real have won 3 champions league titles in a row. Ask Real fans - do they remember with warmth the quality of Real's play during that period of time.
Unironically, the last time Real Madrid played good football was in 2012. Individual brilliance and a legendary winning mentality do not mean they played good football.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Fans do have the tendency to exaggerate everything good and bad. Madrid is producing a pretty good league season so far, not spectacular, but pretty good. Still in Copa. Still in CL. Big favorites to get the league title.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
Fans do have the tendency to exaggerate everything good and bad. Madrid is producing a pretty good league season so far, not spectacular, but pretty good. Still in Copa. Still in CL. Big favorites to get the league title.
It's January of course they are still in all those competitions.

Their league season is good not because they are good but because the competition is shit. If the competition improves it will immediately become a very bad league season for them trust me.
 

MonteCuler

Well-known member
You mean Atlético?
Either us or Atletico, it doesn't matter.

But it's not like Atletico has anything to improve results wise. They just lost two games in La Liga and if that Leganes loss doesn't move them too much they will probably keep winning. While Madrid will inevitably drop points against the first semi-serious club they encounter.
 

BJJ

Well-known member
If the players don't finish chances there is absolutely NOTHING and I mean NOTHING a manager can do. The manager has to set up a system of play where goal scoring opportunities are created and the players have to finish them. Against low block shithouse teams you won't get many opportunities so when you do get them you have to score. Anyone remember that first leg 2012 cl tie against Chelsea?? We generated chance after chance against that shithouse team, yet in the last few minutes Chelsea had one chance and they scored.
This isn't the only instance. The story of this club has been one of missing chances against inferior opposition. Beit CL or la liga.
I said it before,this team is better suited for cup formats. Alot of them are inexperienced youngsters and are still trying to find the consistency for the league grind.
The league is gone. It went in November. That October month really sucked the wind out of our sails.
Also sacking Flick is not going to help this club in the long term. Are we just going to bounce from manager to manager? I want to see Flick given some time and money . Xavi was given that opportunity. Flick deserves it too.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
“ Barca celebrate playing pretty football, Real Madrid celebrate titles”
-Dani Cabellos
Yes, if I'm offered a choice between

1 - your team will play average, unremarkable soccer, but will win titles.

2 - or your team will play beautiful soccer, but it will win titles 2-3 times less often.


I will choose the second option.

I want to say to the guys who put titles above all else - why the fuck are you watching the football from August through May-June? What the fuck? If you care about titles more than quality of play, why are you wasting your time, nerves, etc.? Just look at the final score after every match, or at the end of the season ask Google - “Who won La Liga this season?”, “Who won the Champions League this season?”.
 
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ajnotkeith

Senior Member
The CL knockouts will be really important. I don't care what anyone says here, a CL is way higher than a LaLiga title and its evident. To be honest if the league situation gets any worse we should simply go full pelt for the CL.

Its also typically won by one of the best teams every time so its not a lottery either. There is a reason they are so treasured as titles.

What we've seen from Flick indicates his tactics struggle against super parked buses/small teams, but are very effective against good teams who are aiming to win the game.

That suits knockout football well where a draw is not an option and we are playing good teams who will try to play football properly.
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
Go buy samples of La Liga and Champions League titles and shove them down your throat.

I don't care about other fans. I never remember the 2011 final because it was a final.

I turn on the TV to see beautiful football by my team here and now. Barcelona lost the league last season. You think about it and can't sleep? We haven't won the Champions League in 10 years - do you think about that and can't sleep? Or are you worried about the here and now. Stop counting titles. When you die, maybe in 100 years the most titled team in La Liga will probably be Villarreal.

Are you fucking high right now?
What are you yapping about?

You only remember the 11 finals because it was a final you idiot.
Otherwise it would be forgotten like all other games where good football was played
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
Go buy samples of La Liga and Champions League titles and shove them down your throat.

I don't care about other fans. I never remember the 2011 final because it was a final.

I turn on the TV to see beautiful football by my team here and now. Barcelona lost the league last season. You think about it and can't sleep? We haven't won the Champions League in 10 years - do you think about that and can't sleep? Or are you worried about the here and now. Stop counting titles. When you die, maybe in 100 years the most titled team in La Liga will probably be Villarreal.

You are fucking thick
Nobody saying good football is not important.

Or just pretending to be thick.
Get your head out your ass
 

M3ls

Well-known member
Are you fucking high right now?
What are you yapping about?

You only remember the 11 finals because it was a final you idiot.
Otherwise it would be forgotten like all other games where good football was played
Silly little boy, who told you I don't remember games when we showed quality football but got the results we needed?

Go set yourself on fire.
 

M3ls

Well-known member
You are fucking thick
Nobody saying good football is not important.

Or just pretending to be thick.
Get your head out your ass
Idiot, you were just yesterday demanding Flick leave.
How can you demand the resignation of a coach whose team, along with Liverpool, has the best football in Europe?? And you - idiot - are now going to tell me that the quality of play matters to you too? Shut up, then you'll look smarter.
 

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