Ivan Rakitić
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Raketa10
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xXKonan
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Seems like Barto is really sticking to his guns and not giving him a renewal. I could understand if he was in his mid-20s but he's 30/31 years old this year and already on pretty high wages. Hell, I thought it was pretty dumb to give Busi another extension and a wage increase when he just got one a year earlier but it seems maybe Barto learned from his mistake.
I have to wonder if the Inter rumors were just an attempt to try and pressure Barto into giving him a renewal.
I have to wonder if the Inter rumors were just an attempt to try and pressure Barto into giving him a renewal.
YodaMaster
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Thiago? Isco? Veratti? hahahahahahahaah?! Dude Verratti disappeared in every important game, Thiago was injured half of that time and Isco wasn't even a regular starter LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. You are shitting on him every time like he is on the level of Gomes and yet you found ONLY 11 "better" midfielders in the world. This is hilarious!My football knowledge? And you don't understand that our RCM today needs to run and cover Messi because he doesn't run at all without the ball? Dude you know nothing about football if you are comparing Paulinho with Rakitic. Go and play FIFA you clown.
Of course you don't give a shit about what Mourinho says since you understand football much better by watching it on TV over and over again.
According to you, I understand nothing about football and it's ok. But according to messages you write, like this one for example, you don't understand the concept of reading.
I was making fun of your description of what should a RCM do at Barca. It was a horrible description that completely fits a player like Paulinho. Once again you're the one allowing shit comparisons like this one because of your limited vision of what a Barca midfielder should be.
Your words. If you're looking for a guy who just scores goals and covers Messi + helps Roberto, yes Paulinho is your man. I'm not the one looking for such players. I'm the one trying to get rid of them.
Thiago, Iscro and Verratti are all superior midfielders to Rakitic. Far more Barca suited at least. Especially Thiago and Verratti, Isco being more of an AM thus less comparable. Rakitic wouldn't start at RM neither with competition like Kroos, Modric and Casemiro. Isco was a starter in RM's last few CL winning seasons.
A Thiago average performance is better than a Rakitic average performance, same goes for Verratti. They're both injury prone, that's the only advantage Rakitic has on them. Other than that, they work as hard, recover as much, run more than Rakitic. And their on ball creative work is just miles ahead of that of Rakitic. I don't know what's so funny.
I'll never be 1/10 of what Mourinho is as a football coach. I'm not comparing myself to him. But that doesn't mean that all the stuff he says football related is 100% right. He has his opinion on players, good for him, but it's not an unquestionable truth. Mourinho will also praise Fellaini, Lukaku, he'll prefer Higuain and Adebayor to Benzema, etc. Mourinho has been proved wrong on many players many times. But again: he was right to compliment Rakitic after last Clasico given that Rakitic had a real great performance. You need to read better mate and stop confusing everything.
I could only find 11 better players ? Well, I never said that Rakitic is a complete shit midfielder. He's probably top 20 or top 15 in the world. Problem is that at Barca, 5 years long starter midfielder should be a top 5 in the world player, top 10 at the very very least. That's the kind of ambition I have for the club I love, and that's the way it should be.
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Arizona Scott
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So Tadic is a logical solution.
I am out of this thread for good. After Neymar left this thread became the worst by far in this forum.
No, could use some sense in here (along with Joan and a few others as well). The absurd and double standard club (e.g., what they judge Rakitic, Bob, Coutinho, Suarez and Pique by that is not equally applied to some other favorites when they have bad or average spells, particularly the "shiny new" players Busi is another example. And I like Busi but also am aware of his shortcumings too) can call others "fanboys". But when they are argued against--and yes called out as haters when it is over the top, and with some data behind why some of their positions are wack, they get all bent out of shape.
Yoda, the Sevilla matches were two of most important this spring, that is why they were brought up. Without a great leg 2 we don't get a chance to all but kill off Madrid's season, and don't have the cushion (by being only 1 of 2 teams all year to win in Sevilla this year) to rest a low of players this weekend going into Lyon part 2.
I am fine with selling Rakitic this summer for the right price and the right vet coming in (e.g., Rabiot, Herrera). I am not in denial nor am I not pragmatic. I just react to the dumbshit posts that don't think he is one of our 11 best players (maybe not you but lots of others) and his form/rest (along with some others) won't be insignificant to getting the most of the this year, including a deep CL run and with some good bounces Barca's way another chance at a historic treble. And yes he has been critical already to us all but sewing up a double by early march. So get the man some rest now in league, much of other vets could use rest too, and lets get a better look at Alena and Malcom.
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Arizona Scott
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This is fair enough. It isn't like we didn't try for Verratti (if reports are to be believed). Over the past 5 years no I don't think Thiago in and Rakitic out would have resulted in more trophies. Even if you assume Thiago is better--he is in some areas and worse in others, he hasn't been reliable health wise. Isco is a totally different player, and would fit like a square peg like Coutinho does. I would take Eriksen over all of them, but whether Spurs will see for anything less than a small fortune is the question. There is theory, and there is what we have, and can realistically get.
tacticvarium
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CatalinR10
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shadows
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I am obviously hoping there is a rotation involving Rakitic (and Busi) and not him as the undisputed starter...Obviously he (and Busi) has been valuable for us but his age warrants phasing him out as well and not keeping expensive buys on the bench for him!!! But knowing Valverde, same starting 11 as usual 
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Sorin
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We treat this man like he is Iniesta or Xavi level ffs. Hell, he isn't Busquets level, not even close. We need money to rejuvenate the team and he's still good enough to bring us some serious dough in exchange. Time to move on into the next era for the club.
Unless he accepts a reduction of playing time what's even the point of keeping him? Are the likes of Alena, Arthur and FDJ supposed to develop with few minutes here and there? Valverde has no vision whatsoever. What a pathetic manager we have.
Unless he accepts a reduction of playing time what's even the point of keeping him? Are the likes of Alena, Arthur and FDJ supposed to develop with few minutes here and there? Valverde has no vision whatsoever. What a pathetic manager we have.
It’s all rather worrying to be honest
Sorin
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In the short term maybe, but we are still buying good players. EV won't be here forever and when a new guy comes he will already have a world class team at his disposal so I'm not too worried. Unless they give this guy an extension, which will be quite sad.
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