Ivan Rakitić

xXKonan

Senior Member
"Arthur is the most overrated footballer of a decade on this forum"

When people praise Arthur for his performances.

BBZ-
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About sums up his arguments on Arthur. It's actually quite funny at this point how badly BBZ gets mad when the forum actually likes Arthur. The guy won't ever get over it at this point.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
"Arthur is the most overrated footballer of a decade on this forum"

When people praise Arthur for his performances.

BBZ-
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About sums up his arguments on Arthur.

Arthur has been overrated for quite some time now, he is being hyped based on his performances earlier in the season. Right now after injury and loss of form he is playing worse than Rakitic
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Arthur has been overrated for quite some time now, he is being hyped based on his performances earlier in the season. Right now after injury and loss of form he is playing worse than Rakitic
Worse than Rakitic?

Yeah, now I can tell you haven't been watching shit recently. Rakitic has by far been a lot worse and one of the biggest reasons why we are out of the CL. Even when Arthur was off form Rakitic has still been worse than Arthur has.

I legit lol when people say Rakitic is our best CM. other than an odd goal here and there and a long pass he's nowhere near our best CM. People live off the shitty illusion that he's a workhorse and some off the ball genius but in reality, he's nowhere near that shit.

Dude is a wannabe workhorse/playmaker. The only reason this guy still starts is that we have a coach who is a giant pussy. Under any real coach, the guy would have either been sold or become nothing more than a DM at this point.

The likes of Arthur and Vidal provide much more than this candy ass fool does right now.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
"Arthur is the most overrated footballer of a decade on this forum"

When people praise Arthur for his performances.

BBZ-
stop_liking_file.jpg


About sums up his arguments on Arthur. It's actually quite funny at this point how badly BBZ gets mad when the forum actually likes Arthur. The guy won't ever get over it at this point.

Arthur played shit for the last 3 Months, no comments.
Only Serghei (apart from guys who are against a popular opinions on forum) raised a few concerns about him lately.

Arthur is as slow as Busi and Raki.
No comments.
What is worse, he is 23.
He will lose his already weak pace in each new season.
No comments, or: Xavi was slow.

Stamina.
It will be weaker and weaker with age.
And with more weight.

Forward passes?
1 assist, zero gosls, rarely tries a shot.
The weakest defender out of our 4 midfielders.

Basically, a guy gets a free pass from fans because he is press resistant and resembles on Xavi in some aspects.
But only in some aspects: moving off the ball and being press resistant.
More or less, that's it from his skills.

I have wrote a few times, you guys think that a player can learn anything over time.
Let's see how will Arthur kill his natural instincts which say: always play a safe pass.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
Arthur played shit for the last 3 Months, no comments.
Only Serghei (apart from guys who are against a popular opinions on forum) raised a few concerns about him lately.

Arthur is as slow as Busi and Raki.
No comments.
What is worse, he is 23.
He will lose his already weak pace in each new season.
No comments, or: Xavi was slow.

Stamina.
It will be weaker and weaker with age.
And with more weight.

Forward passes?
1 assist, zero gosls, rarely tries a shot.
The weakest defender out of our 4 midfielders.

Basically, a guy gets a free pass from fans because he is press resistant and resembles on Xavi in some aspects.
But only in some aspects: moving off the ball and being press resistant.
More or less, that's it from his skills.

I have wrote a few times, you guys think that a player can learn anything over time.
Let's see how will Arthur kill his natural instincts which say: always play a safe pass.
Again dude, you aren't willing to give Arthur a chance no matter how much he improves.

You flat out fucking hate him because people were starting to get hyped up about him. So you instantly decided to take a "Counter-Opinion" option before he even kicked a damn ball. When this guy got his first real start vs Girona and was subbed off at 58 Minutes you were gleefully in here trying brag about how this guy won't make it here along with gasgas.

The best part of this season is when he became a starter because of his performances forced you to actually be quiet for a while. you only conveniently came back to shit on him once he got off form.

Face it Arthur is the direct opposite of CM you want. He's not tall, not a physical beast, not the fastest and perhaps not the most energetic CM. He's basically the classic possession style Midfielder that would have thrived under Pep's system.

Arthur played well for most of the season despite how awful Valverde's system is. I expect De Jong to do the same as well once he comes here. Even if the system is garbage their quality will still show in various areas.
 

Arizona Scott

New member
Mate just shut the fuck up already. Now I understand why you always use stats: you have a mediocre football knowledge and what your eyes see is bullshit most of the time.

Busquets has been an average player, but he still contributes more defensively and offensively than this neutral Casper player Rakishit. The simple fact that morons like you and Raketa10 always need to talk about Busquets when Rakitic is being criticized is the proof that both of you are Ivan’s fanboys. You are always ignoring one fact: Busquets is playing in a system that doesn’t fit his characteristics. We can’t say the same about Rakitic. And still Busquets is outperforming the Croat.

Don’t you Raki fanboys wanna talk about your hero’s positioning ? Do you wanna talk about how he completely ignores his CM role and sticks Busquets and Piqué’s ass on the field, which creates a huge emptiness offensively ? This guy single handily creates a huge unbalance in his team ! Are you gonna talk about how he throws himself to the ground and pretends to be dying as soon as he gets pressured by opposition ? Are you gonna talk about Rakitic non existent creativity and offensive contribution ? These are all Rakitic flaws that Busquets doesn’t have, and which make Busquets by far a superior player, even this washed up version of Busquets. Busquets even creates more and gives far more key passes despite having a more defensive role on paper. Where’s your stats little boy ? You look lost.
Most of people here would sell Busquets or at least remove his starter status, including me. But don’t act like Rakitic and Busquets are equally harmful for this team. Rakitic is a much bigger fraud than Busquets, that’s why getting rid of him first is the priority.

Are we gonna talk about Ivan’s rat acts outside the pitch ? I know since years that this dude is a rat. The first sign was when he went and bashed Enrique publicly because Enrique had the audacity to put Ivan’s fraud ass on the bench for a few games in 16-17 season. Enrique is the guy who gave this fraud a career at Barca. Are we gonna talk about he goes out and says that FDJ won’t touch his spot ? What do you have to say about his behavior when he got subbed yesterday ? The fact that some of you need to diss Arthur (a 21yo kid who just came from Brazil) to make a 31yo senior Rakitic (starter since 2014 here) look better is very telling about how shit a player he became.

He’s a rat on top of being a useless footballer. He’s far behind Busquets, Vidal and Arthur. He should have been in competition with Alena and Puig. One good match every 2 months won’t change that.

Oh and btw what do you have to say about Coutinho’s season ? Do you still think that he is (I quote) "linking up great with Suarez and Messi, and deserves to be in the starting 11 for that" ?

As I said: shit football knowledge. That’s why you need stats, otherwise you have nothing concrete to say.

Where’s fucking BBZ and his famous "coach knows better" "workhorses Rakitic & Vidal over schoolboys will win us a CL" ?

You guys are just as much frauds as Rakitic, Valverde and Coutinho. Frauds defending frauds, that’s what you are. Now that this season exposed y’all, do us a favor: STFU for a moment. Thanks.

PS: [MENTION=18675]messi2140[/MENTION] this thread won’t be named "Rakishit" because this forum is full of Croats, and they’ll never admit that this guy is shit, even if it’s obvious for blind people.

Dude yoda, you went off the deep end, way deep end. People throw away the best metrics because it challenges their desire for simple answers to complex situations. Lots of adjectives and insults, pro-Croat bias (?like seriously, compared to pro-La Masia bias, or pro any next young player being better than the start they just need more PT bias), yet denying some of the obvious.

Coutinho has had ups and downs since he has been here. More downs than ups. All this year I have been saying don't play him more than Dembele, but yes without Dembele ihas produced in the top 11, not 150 mil good, but top 11 level. You could check the close to what we have as facts--but I am sure you won't in a systematic and comprehensive way because it won't jive with already formed opinions.
 

Arizona Scott

New member
Arthur has been overrated for quite some time now, he is being hyped based on his performances earlier in the season. Right now after injury and loss of form he is playing worse than Rakitic

Don't say stuff like this unless you want to get a bunch of folks getting panties in a wad.

Arthur had a tremendous 1st season but faded badly in impact--be it fatigue or injury toll, so much to the effect Vidal was starting some big games. He looks like an excellent long term player to me--but the Xavi comparisons and overall expectations of him are absurd to many

To some pointing out Rakitic strengths means fanboy and pointing out Arthurs flaws and slumps in play equates with hating. Busi is another many don't have balance, he goes some things great from the team, but also leaves us very exposed in some ways. Got to look at the whole player within the whole system.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
It’s not rocket science guys .., anyone playing next to Liverpool’s DVD looks good because he helps them ..

In contrast Busqs suffers greatly having to play with RAKITIC and Samedo is hampered when he has to link up with Roberto..

Busquets suffers because he is shit and not because others are shit. Stop with that already! His time has passed just accept it.
 

EdmondDantes

New member
This untalented leech needs to get the fuck out, the board have made no secret they want rakishit gone - now it's time to do it. He brought nothing to the table this season, he's been the epitome of a waste of a shirt.


I can't get over how highly this arrogant plodder thinks of himself, probably even above the likes of Xavi & Iniesta that he thinks he is owns a starting spot here. Being as limited a player as he's always been, playing as shit as he's played. No wonder he backs that incompetent garden gnome Valverde, he knows that with anyone else here, his performances and lack of talent don't even warrant a place on the bench.
 
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Raketa10

Senior Member
Arthur will be 23 in 2 Months.

Do you know what is the problem?
People think that only Rakitic is bad.

While in reality:
Rakitic was never the most technical player.
And now he is too old, mentally drained and complacent.

Some of you say that Busi can't play in a current system.
Lol, can you imagine any top team wanting a current Busi?
That guy can't play in any system anymore.

Arthur is 23. Forward passes are not in his blood and as I have said, let's wait and see how that learning process will end.
Since he will need to play against his natural instincts (keep the ball till death and never risk).
Not to mention his turtle pace already in early 20's (he will be even slower with each new year), stamina and being overweight.

Vidal, past his prime and isn't the best passer.
Alena and Puig, no serious comment needed.

You guys shit on Raki, yet in a next season, we will have one decent midfielder: Frenkie.
Let's hope that he won't fail.

Raki is done.
Busi is done.
Vidal is almost done.
Arthur is the most overrated footballer of a decade on this forum.

The future is not bright.
With or without EV-Raki duo.

While I don't agree on Arthur part the rest is true. Raki, Busi and Vidal are all done and Alena is far from the level Barca needs and I honestly din't know what to think about Puig. He needs more time before we can assess him. We are left with Arthur and De Jong and that is not bad at all if you have a great manager but with EV here I am worried we'll be horrible next season.

Also De Jong and Arthur need one AM player to play with them or we won't have any vertical movement from midfield at all, not to mention none of them can shoot the ball. In Ajax De Jong had Van de Beek in front of him and who will he have here?

We need to get rid of the deadweight (Raki, Busi, Vidal) and buy another midfielder who can actually shoot the ball and give that final pass.
 
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EdmondDantes

New member
One more thing, I've always thought we should have signed Modric and not this fucking garbage, limited dunce. Now there's a genuine, all-time-great Croatian footballer, unlike this statuesque albatross that pussies out and hides in practically every important game he plays - or rather, every important game he's shoehorned in where he doesn't and shouldn't belong, more like.


Arrogant sod.
 
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Raketa10

Senior Member
One more thing, I've always thought we should have signed Modric and not this fucking garbage, limited dunce. Now there's a genuine, all-time-great Croatian footballer, unlike this statuesque albatross that pussies out and hides in practically every important game he plays - or rather, every important game he's shoehorned in where he doesn't and shouldn't belong, more like.


Arrogant sod.

Dude we all know Modric is a class above. It's like saying Xavi is better than Fabregas. It's obvious but we were too late.
 

EdmondDantes

New member
Dude we all know Modric is a class above. It's like saying Xavi is better than Fabregas. It's obvious but we were too late.

Modric is a million classes above, and a genuine Barcelona midfielder, unlike Rakitic.

I've seen people here rating Rakitic over Modric out of sheer dishonesty - and bias - over the years and it's about time we say it's always been nonsense.
 

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