Ivan Rakitić

mladenq

Member
been reading all over the net today how raki was awesome last night, and how he showed that he definitely belongs in the first 11

had to cut out a couple of highlights as a tribute to that great performance against never-worse dortmund

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7oko0d

now imagine how it is when he's playing badly, when this is great
 

serghei

Senior Member
been reading all over the net today how raki was awesome last night, and how he showed that he definitely belongs in the first 11

had to cut out a couple of highlights as a tribute to that great performance against never-worse dortmund

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7oko0d

now imagine how it is when he's playing badly, when this is great

Imo, extremist videos like that give the likes of BBZ and his forum pals a sense of righteousness that what they believe is correct and everybody else is wrong.

Rakitic played better than that video is trying to suggest. He didn't do anything special, and had a few mistakes - as shown in the video with zeal, but overall he ran a lot, and was involved and had some good actions. None of that is shown there.

I'd consider that a 7/10 performance. It's also true that Arthur's worst performances this season are also a 6-7/10. But that's another story.

Imo we should try to be fair and judge everyone in the same way.
 
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serghei

Senior Member
I call it the Mourinho complex.

Me vs the entire World.

It's a cheap, perverse way to debate things. They take the few extremist opinions that counter their story, which are just as wrong, and generalize them to the point that they pretend everyone else is thinking that.

Not everyone who thinks Rakitic is not first 11 material also thinks Rakitic had a terrible game last night. They have to take a negative approach in this subject because of the great number of comments completely acting as if Rakitic was man of the match. Rakitic was a player who performed at the level of the whole team last night, which was good.
 

mladenq

Member
Imo, extremist videos like that give the likes of BBZ and his forum pals a sense of righteousness that what they believe is correct and everybody else is wrong.

Rakitic played better than that video is trying to suggest. He didn't do anything special, and had a few mistakes - as shown in the video with zeal, but overall he ran a lot, and was involved and had some good actions. None of that is shown there.

I'd consider that a 7/10 performance. It's also true that Arthur's worst performances this season are also a 6-7/10. But that's another story.

Imo we should try to be fair and judge everyone in the same way.

dude, im not gonna incorporate into video him running without the ball, or him passing to the nearest guy 50 times, i mean those things are bare minimun to be even considered a professional player, i was just addressing the fact that the dude's being praised for putting up a great performance and he literally had 0 good moves, and plenty od bad ones, and even some god-awful ones that could've directly lead to dortmund scoring

tbh he did also have a couple of interceptions but those things as i said are kinda bare minimum, i mean if you just exist in the field against a team that is playing horribly (like dortmund did last night) you're bound to have at least some OK moves, but to call that 7/10? jesus... talk about setting the bar low
 

serghei

Senior Member
I'd say 7/10 is a fair rating of a performance where you were okay but not a standout. Which was Rakitic last night. He had that big error sure, but as the match went on he recovered and played ok.
 

xXKonan

Senior Member
He was alright but this was a Dortmund team going through a period of bad form.

It doesn't really inspire any confidence that he should be a starter. Especially in the first 20 mins where he was just horrible.
 

serghei

Senior Member
And regarding Rakitic, I maintain my opinion that him and Busquets should fight for a spot in the first 11. Under no circumstances these two should regularly start in CL together again. It's the equivalence of banging your head on a concrete wall for a 3rd consecutive time, hoping this time the wall will crack, after you were in a coma the other two times you tried this stunt.

He was alright but this was a Dortmund team going through a period of bad form.

It doesn't really inspire any confidence that he should be a starter. Especially in the first 20 mins where he was just horrible.

Yep, and this context matters too. Dortmund usually get trashed away from home by any top team they face in CL, and in Germany as well (Bayern).
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Ideally neither Rakitic or Busquets should be a starter. Most teams are starting to build their midfield around athletic players, and while Arthur isn't an athletic specimen, he's better at pressing, running/tracking back and recovering than both of those players.

We desperately need some pace and athleticism in defence and midfield in general.
 

snowy

Well-known member
I'd say 7/10 is a fair rating of a performance where you were okay but not a standout. Which was Rakitic last night. He had that big error sure, but as the match went on he recovered and played ok.

He was generally solid. Best part was that interception and loop pass to Busi who flick it to Leo. 6 would be more fitting though.

Otherwise, you'd have to give Leo his signature 10 and Jadon a 9. His goal and 2nd attempt were wicked. His final quick touch 1-2s and movement and cross-bar shot was amazeball :thumbsup:
 

Vilarrubi

New member
Rakitic was acceptable in the home leg against Liverpool last season, that's not the issue here. The issue is if Valverde regains confidence in him again and starts him in a tough CL away fixture where the opposition presses high. Then we are FUCKED.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Rakitic was acceptable in the home leg against Liverpool last season, that's not the issue here. The issue is if Valverde regains confidence in him again and starts him in a tough CL away fixture where the opposition presses high. Then we are FUCKED.


Which renders him useless.
 

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