Ivan Rakitić

Kul_z

Senior Member
dont understand why he was on the pitch till FT instead of Arthur. would never start him again in big matches.

Actually, im fine with that if other mf players would be used the same. He got his 90 minutes, now give them to vidal or arthur. They need playing time
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
Did he do a single thing today that Alenya wouldn't have been able to? Like a single pass or something that would make ou think 'Alenya wouldn't have made that'.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
Alena is just as unremarkable. And that while being more offensive. I can understand Valverde 100% picking Rakitic over him.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Did he do a single thing today that Alenya wouldn't have been able to? Like a single pass or something that would make ou think 'Alenya wouldn't have made that'.

Lol.
I know that this is Barcaforum where football is played only in one way: in attacking way.
And passing and off the ball movement is the only thing that counts.

But sadly, outside of this "bubble", there is a real world, where football is played in 2 ways: attacking and defensive.

As I have wrote in previous posts, when someone who didn't watch a match would read our forum, it could sound as if Rakitic lost 100 balls and hasn't done absolutely nothing on a field for 90 minutes.
Since someone in the team also needs to do a dirty defensive job, tackle, intercept passes and play marking all match, let's see what actual stats say for today's match:

Defensive job vs Atletico:
Tackles:
3 Rakitic
1 Frenkie
1 Arthur

Interceptions:
3 Frenkie
1 Rakitic
- Arthur

Clearances:
3 Rakitic
1 Frenkie
1 Arthur

Blocks:
2 Rakitic
1 Frenkie
- Arthur

Total defensive balls won tonight:
9 Rakitic
6 Frenkie
2 Arthur

Rakitic made 9 defensive contributions tonight.
For example, Arthur had 8 defensive contributions in total in his LAST 6 LEAGUE matches (Atletico 2, Celta 0, Levante 2, Eibar 1, Sevilla 2, Getafe 1).

Maybe it is not such a coincidence that Leganes hadn't created chances after Rakitic entered.
That Borussia looked like amateurs on Wednesday.
And that Atletico, hasn't scored again, even though they had a few chances.

Isn't our team better defensively in the last few matches compared to a horror show in September and October?
Remember that we looked horrible against any single bottom table La Liga team on away matches.
And finally, we are even winning on AWAY La Liga matches.

For the end, I will have to quote this one more time:
Did he do a single thing today that Alenya wouldn't have been able to?

Well, yes...
Erm 9 defensive contributions in 90 minutes?
Alena is an offensive minded midfielder.
 
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BusiTheKing

Senior Member
Lol how are you still peddling that 'defensive contributions' nonsense. Again, Wilfried Ndidi makes 6 times as many tackles as Van Dijk pr. 90. Phil Foden, Lallana, Moutinho, Dani Ceballos make more tackles pr. 90 than Jordan Henderson, Fabian Delph and Kante.

What do you think about that?
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
This guy is a walking disaster.


If both Borussia and Atletico would have scored due to this guy's mistakes , we would have had a very different ending on both games.


Barcelona's black sheep.
 

EdmondDantes

New member
Lol.
I know that this is Barcaforum where football is played only in one way: in attacking way.
And passing and off the ball movement is the only thing that counts.

But sadly, outside of this "bubble", there is a real world, where football is played in 2 ways: attacking and defensive.

As I have wrote in previous posts, when someone who didn't watch a match would read our forum, it could sound as if Rakitic lost 100 balls and hasn't done absolutely nothing on a field for 90 minutes.
Since someone in the team also needs to do a dirty defensive job, tackle, intercept passes and play marking all match, let's see what actual stats say for today's match:

Defensive job vs Atletico:
Tackles:
3 Rakitic
1 Frenkie
1 Arthur

Interceptions:
3 Frenkie
1 Rakitic
- Arthur

Clearances:
3 Rakitic
1 Frenkie
1 Arthur

Blocks:
2 Rakitic
1 Frenkie
- Arthur

Total defensive balls won tonight:
9 Rakitic
6 Frenkie
2 Arthur

Rakitic made 9 defensive contributions tonight.
For example, Arthur had 8 defensive contributions in total in his LAST 6 LEAGUE matches (Atletico 2, Celta 0, Levante 2, Eibar 1, Sevilla 2, Getafe 1).

Maybe it is not such a coincidence that Leganes hadn't created chances after Rakitic entered.
That Borussia looked like amateurs on Wednesday.
And that Atletico, hasn't scored again, even though they had a few chances.

Isn't our team better defensively in the last few matches compared to a horror show in September and October?
Remember that we looked horrible against any single bottom table La Liga team on away matches.
And finally, we are even winning on AWAY La Liga matches.

For the end, I will have to quote this one more time:


Well, yes...
Erm 9 defensive contributions in 90 minutes?
Alena is an offensive minded midfielder.

You're beyond irrational when it comes to Rakitic (and Arthur), dude.
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
There is so much more to take into account that it's honestly ridiculous. Even if you do wanna base it solely on stats, you're ignoring those that make Rakitic look bad.

Like, isn't it just a little bit relevant how much a player gets dribbled past?

Rakitic: 1.7
Busquets: 1.2
Arthur: 0.6
Frenkie: 0.3

pr. 90 mins
 

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