Androutsos
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Pretty sure they specifically said that the Spotify deal covers the 41.5m losses from TV revenue.
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Pretty sure they specifically said that the Spotify deal covers the 41.5m losses from TV revenue.
jamrock
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You.
club had plenty of money & could sign a certain player for any price he went for....
When the facts are we are broke, which has led to us take a deal on bad terms in order to stabilize our finances.
Real Madrid have plenty of money, city of plenty of money.
Barcelona broke, broke clubs signs bad but necessary deals.
Exactly was always gonna happen, had less to do with signings & more to so with our horrible economic state
Everyone & their grandma." Barcelona is broke"
Jamdav "nah we have plenty of money to sign whoever we want no matter the price". We just have to mortgage our future in order to do it, because that's what clubs with plenty of money do.
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jamrock
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Glad Laporta, his team, sport ran with 25 for 40 first, because if they did 25% for even 20, everyone who had their panties in a twist about the first rumor would 100% have been saying the same things about that deal.
Why sign this deal so we can sign a bunch of Chelsea rejects ( was never the point of of the deal)
Just sell all our young players (just no).
25 for 20 years tooo much.
At least this way some accept it's a bad deal but are calmer about it. Goood bait & switch on the socios & fan base. some of whom simply refuse to understand that taking this deal is about more than signings, it's about stabilizing our finances today, so we can fight tomorrow.
Why sign this deal so we can sign a bunch of Chelsea rejects ( was never the point of of the deal)
Just sell all our young players (just no).
25 for 20 years tooo much.
At least this way some accept it's a bad deal but are calmer about it. Goood bait & switch on the socios & fan base. some of whom simply refuse to understand that taking this deal is about more than signings, it's about stabilizing our finances today, so we can fight tomorrow.
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Harry maguire
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🚨🥇| The sale of Frenkie de Jong is taken for granted at Barcelona. @victor_nahe #fcblive
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(🌕) Barcelona still plans to sell De Jong. @HelenaCondis #Transfers 🇳🇱🚨
Ancient news alread postedy in Transfers and Rumours thread. Keep up.
JamDav1982
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Laporta and his team must have been having a good chuckle at those that thought the 40 year CVC deal was one club should take!
Guys lets put an idea out there so bad that it softens the blow of a lesser deal! Some will actually think it is a good deal bizarrely.. can have a good chuckle about that.
No one said 'lets sell all the players' other than selling some to raise 300m odd would be better idea than signing that atrocious 40 year deal some thought was way to go.
That would also have given club around 100m in market and allowed for signings...not just punting all players with no replacements. But the point of bringing up that alternative that no one wants.. was it is terrible outcome but still better than 40 years of club being handicapped with CVC deal.
The prime reason they are doing these deals are to strengthen squad now. If watched yesterday at all would know as much from what they said and it being necessary in large part to the obstacles put in place by Tebas '600 miles away'.
Some folk lap up everything they are told at face value and dont get that it is a part of bigger game or basically dont understand what is being discussed.
40 year CVC is way forward.... because club say it.
Barca cant afford Haaland... because club say it.
Barca cant renew Roberto... because club/media claim it.
FDJ is only being sold due to finances... because club put that message out
Lewa will only be cheap on the books... because read it somewhere.
All nonsense.
Guys lets put an idea out there so bad that it softens the blow of a lesser deal! Some will actually think it is a good deal bizarrely.. can have a good chuckle about that.
No one said 'lets sell all the players' other than selling some to raise 300m odd would be better idea than signing that atrocious 40 year deal some thought was way to go.
That would also have given club around 100m in market and allowed for signings...not just punting all players with no replacements. But the point of bringing up that alternative that no one wants.. was it is terrible outcome but still better than 40 years of club being handicapped with CVC deal.
The prime reason they are doing these deals are to strengthen squad now. If watched yesterday at all would know as much from what they said and it being necessary in large part to the obstacles put in place by Tebas '600 miles away'.
Some folk lap up everything they are told at face value and dont get that it is a part of bigger game or basically dont understand what is being discussed.
40 year CVC is way forward.... because club say it.
Barca cant afford Haaland... because club say it.
Barca cant renew Roberto... because club/media claim it.
FDJ is only being sold due to finances... because club put that message out
Lewa will only be cheap on the books... because read it somewhere.
All nonsense.
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@JamDav, do you think we could have taken the option of selling a % of future TV rights if LaLiga hadn't opened that option with the CVC?
I imagine Tebas would have been against clubs doing that and being allowed had he not conceived it.
Nothing against your previous post, just an interesting tangent to me.
I imagine Tebas would have been against clubs doing that and being allowed had he not conceived it.
Nothing against your previous post, just an interesting tangent to me.
JamDav1982
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No idea but it wasnt Tebas idea and other leagues have considered approved similar so dont think leagues are opposed to it or offering it to their clubs.
He did agree to bring it to LaLiga atleast. And atleast we used this to leverage a better deal for it ourselves.
To the point of using this money to bring players to the club- its true. Primarily it's to bridge the financial situation and bring us to LaLiga salary cap surplus.
But second to that, the players are the primary asset of every football club. And those coupled with success is what brings in sponsors, full stadiums, tour and other income streams.
Bartomeu had the right idea but the wrong application. Lack of squad balance and way over paying. His midrange future bets pretty much all failed. Partly because we also never established a manager post LE with authority to lead the project like the British clubs routinely do.
The big transfer fees in isolation are not the big problem, it is that couples with big wages and an ever expanding wage bill. Well, we saw what happened and still see the residue with the remaining amigos.
Now let's hope Laporta doesn't go back to that by paying a large(ish) fee for Lewandowski while also paying him above the salary cap we have been looking to move to over the last year's.
Kounde for 50-60m is a good move for example, because his wages should be modest (lower than Lenglet and Umtiti for example who will both be on their way out one way or enough).
But if we are not buying better players while lowering the wage bill then we are learning nothing. Kounde on an improved wage but not crazy, makes it easy to potentially sell in a few years time like other teams do. And that is the key to sustainability after this injection of rocketfuel.
To the point of using this money to bring players to the club- its true. Primarily it's to bridge the financial situation and bring us to LaLiga salary cap surplus.
But second to that, the players are the primary asset of every football club. And those coupled with success is what brings in sponsors, full stadiums, tour and other income streams.
Bartomeu had the right idea but the wrong application. Lack of squad balance and way over paying. His midrange future bets pretty much all failed. Partly because we also never established a manager post LE with authority to lead the project like the British clubs routinely do.
The big transfer fees in isolation are not the big problem, it is that couples with big wages and an ever expanding wage bill. Well, we saw what happened and still see the residue with the remaining amigos.
Now let's hope Laporta doesn't go back to that by paying a large(ish) fee for Lewandowski while also paying him above the salary cap we have been looking to move to over the last year's.
Kounde for 50-60m is a good move for example, because his wages should be modest (lower than Lenglet and Umtiti for example who will both be on their way out one way or enough).
But if we are not buying better players while lowering the wage bill then we are learning nothing. Kounde on an improved wage but not crazy, makes it easy to potentially sell in a few years time like other teams do. And that is the key to sustainability after this injection of rocketfuel.
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JamDav1982
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Success has to come now that they have pulled these levers.
That is the reason they are doing it and said as much yesterday.. the team they believe has to be competitive now and that means winning.
Personally think team could still have been even without this but it does make it easier.
If they do this and spend money to still come second and last 16 in CL.. what was the point? The players like Lewa are not going to fill the ground and increase sponsorship just by being there.
Also rejecting the selling of rights now doesnt mean it is off the table forever.. if they rejected it now it would still be there in a years time once had one more season to have a look at finances in improved situation.
That is the reason they are doing it and said as much yesterday.. the team they believe has to be competitive now and that means winning.
Personally think team could still have been even without this but it does make it easier.
If they do this and spend money to still come second and last 16 in CL.. what was the point? The players like Lewa are not going to fill the ground and increase sponsorship just by being there.
Also rejecting the selling of rights now doesnt mean it is off the table forever.. if they rejected it now it would still be there in a years time once had one more season to have a look at finances in improved situation.
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