Joan Laporta

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terryzinc

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the club is selling off rights in order to get money selling out everything even stadium name and yet...
the money is being invested in players not in putting down the debt

50plus for Lewi 60plus for raphina 60plus for bernardo 50plus for kounde that is crazy

this is just like barto
 
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Barcilliant

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terryzinc said:
the club is selling off rights in order to get money selling out everything even stadium name and yet...
the money is being invested in players not in putting down the debt

50plus for Lewi 60plus for raphina 60plus for bernardo 50plus for kounde that is crazy

this is just like barto
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Laporta is definitely gambling. Spending big (for us that is) in the hope of short term success. The market has changed dramatically in this era. There are no bargains like Eto, Deco, Ronaldinho and others now.
 
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MTL_Barca

MTL_Barca

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Selling TV rights just to repay some debt wouldn't get us anywhere.

Not that what the club is doing right now isn't kinda risky, but it's also not as simple as just repaying debt or doing nothing for 2-3 seasons would magically fix the financial situation. Football moves fast, you don't just come back that easily if you fall far behind competition.

There is also no gurantee for the Barca name to be super valuable forever if we suck and don't compete for anything over years.
 
FinBarcelonafan

FinBarcelonafan

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MTL_Barca said:
Selling TV rights just to repay some debt wouldn't get us anywhere.

Not that what the club is doing right now isn't kinda risky, but it's also not as simple as just repaying debt or doing nothing for 2-3 seasons would magically fix the financial situation. Football moves fast, you don't just come back that easily if you fall far behind competition.

There is also no gurantee for the Barca name to be super valuable forever if we suck and don't compete for anything over years.
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Truth. We need to be competitive. We've been joke for years now.
 
jamrock

jamrock

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He will do both, all you gotta do Is listen John Terry, the man is literally doing exactly what he said he would do.

Build a competitive team, none of this wait 4 years BS

He's also gonna stabilize our situation financially, he's not about to spend half a billion dollars on players alone, especially not a bunch of has beens.

Those two reasons are entirely way he's taking the chance of selling our future TV rights

1) Remain completive, will attract more sponsors, bring in more revenue, imagine Barcelona continuing to be a joke for 4-5 more years on top of the 3 we've been already, we can barely attract & increase our commercial revenues as things stand already.

2) Stabilizing our finances, will give the some breathing room in the short term to plan ways to rebuild our finances in the medium to long term.
 
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JamDav1982

Senior Member
The best option for long term of club would be to accept have to rebuild more slowly and Barca could have been competitive this season regardless at least in the league. That was the tougher option... and the levers would still be there at end of this season if wanted to fall back on them. That option would not be gone forever.

But they have chosen to go all in on being competitive now in league and CL to pay for it over next 25 years.

They have to make it work and if get in signings that are linked it will be a very strong squad.

It is no huge miracle to sell off 500m odd of tv rights to stabilize finances and spend 200m on squad but there are pros and cons to both sides of argument on whether they are correct to do it.

By far the primary reason for these levers are to make squad competitive now and get past the La Liga fair play that club see as unfair. Anyone who watched the socios vote will know they said they would not be doing this otherwise and it is absolutely being done to make team cometitive now.

That is not to say they will use 500m for players as clearly wont and cant and what is not spent on players could well be used on deferred salaries and reducing some debts but wont be all that much left over to do that in any significant way.

I think they fancy next years free transfer market also as a lot of tasty names on there and if can clear decks as much as can it gives better opportunities then also. So it needs to be remembered it is not all about this window and most likely about at least the next also.
 
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Luftstalag14

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
We should just be conservative with transfers and signings for a couple of windows while stabilizing our finances. Our revenue will be down for the next 5 years due to all three main revenue streams going down: (1) Match day revenue going down due to Camp Nou being renovated and moving to Montjuic for an entire season (2) TV money, we will receive 40m plus less each season due to selling 25% of it and we probably will have much less prize money (3) commercial and sponsorship money will decrease as a result of our result on the pitch.

We should focus on cutting player wages and bring the cost down, explore internally and try to get the best result we can, rather than selling more of our future to bring in high-dollar, high-stake transfers who might flop just as their high-profile predecessors have, which got us where we are today.
 
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Porque

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We can both cut wages and buy good players on the new salary structures. The transfer fees won't be a huge burden as long as wages are contained enough to resell.

That way we can be more liquid with sales add that as an income stream, and not build negative equity like with Braithwaites, Umtiti, Lenglet, etc where it is so hard to sell because of what they earn.

Over the past few years we have managed to bring Ilaix, Pedri, Gavi and Pablo Torre into the first team. Ilaix made 16m (and resold a year later for more, Pedri is worth 80m+ and Gavi could be sold for 40m+. Let's see how Torre goes.

We're not going to be another Dortmund, but we can leverage how we develop players as long as we can be at the front of the queue in key markets for replacements. For now that market is Spain.

Let's see what Alemany plans are. This is what he wanted to do at Valencia but thanks to huge stadium losses, poor sporting performance and Meriton tightening cash injections it got lost. Mendes also had too much influence which lost the balance between having players for business and having players for the team benefit.
 
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mc_lovin

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What's hard to grasp is how much cutting wages matters. We clear 100m in wages and could essentially finance 5 Ferrans (65m fee+wages). Messi and Griezmann were roughly 200m/year.

As long as we get to a healthy salary mass we are fine even if we spend 200m this year.
 
Kul_z

Kul_z

Senior Member
mc_lovin said:
What's hard to grasp is how much cutting wages matters. We clear 100m in wages and could essentially finance 5 Ferrans (65m fee+wages). Messi and Griezmann were roughly 200m/year.

As long as we get to a healthy salary mass we are fine even if we spend 200m this year.
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Easily. If we manage to shake things up next season(by that i mean not losing points in liga like in first half of the season and crashing out of the cl group stage) we could be seriously competitive and turn this negative aura around. 200m if we would play some exciting football would give us a lot of revenue on youngsters that we could build on. For example if spain goes very far on wc, and we manage to win liga or copa,reach cl later stages in some good fashion i seriously doubt pedri wont be one of if not the best player on those teams. Thats a top5 ballon d'or nominee no doubt. Competitive!
 
iniestaGOAT

iniestaGOAT

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mc_lovin said:
What's hard to grasp is how much cutting wages matters. We clear 100m in wages and could essentially finance 5 Ferrans (65m fee+wages). Messi and Griezmann were roughly 200m/year.

As long as we get to a healthy salary mass we are fine even if we spend 200m this year.
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That's why frenkie needs to be kicked out asap. He is the last one. Seniors leave end of season.
 
Gari

Gari

Active member
Different levels. Bayern wants the player to stay, the player does not want. Barcelona wants the player (any) to leave, the player does not want.
 
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