José Mourinho

[puyolshair]

Rafa has won trophies in the last two seasons. Mourinho has won fuck all. Mourinho couldn't get the richest club in the world to a Champions League final in three seasons - Ancelotti does it this season.


Mourinho is running out of clubs that have the spending power and gullibility he needs to succeed. Barca wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, nor would Bayern. United were a possibility and may still be but having seen him up close this season (especially that awful stalemate at Old Trafford) it's hard to see how he would last there for any length of time.


Chelsea is his spiritual home - he had the chance to go back and establish a dynasty but he's just not that way inclined. He had tens of millions to spend and a squad that was being managed through transition skillfully by Rafa last season. He could have built on the easing out of Terry and Lampard and the introduction of new players. He could have taken on a team that had just won another European trophy and made a real challenge for the league and the European Cup. Instead he's walked into Roman's living room and shat on the rug.

Rafa came into Chelsea and had the League Cup and Club World Cup on a plate for him! And guess what he failed in both! The Europa league win was more down to the players as they were frustrated losing those 2 trophies and knew that was their last chance of silverware!

This season Rafa joined the 2nd best team in Italy! Spent over €100 million and Napoli are now the 3rd best team in Italy! Enough said.

Last season Chelsea were out the title race in January under Rafa! This season under Mou they challenged up to the final few weeks of the season! Something they haven't done in years!

Last season they went out in the CL group stage! This season they made it to the CL Semi final! Btw CL Semi Final>>>>Winning the Europa League!

Mou inherited a team that Rafa left with no balance or identity! Mou spent the first 6 months of the season fixing the mess that Rafa left the team in! Now Mou has evolved his team and has a great base to build off of for next season!

Its embarrassing that you would even compare Rafa to Mourinho!

 

[antonnn]

Ancelotti doesn't deserve THAT much credit tbh. The team was getting stronger, as well as slowly running out of time, they weren't going to keep failing to make the final. I think any pretty decent coach would have gotten Real to the final this season. Tbh I think Real will definitely win one by 2016/17 if they don't win this year.

Anyway, I do feel Mourinho hasn't done the job he could have, we should have won the league this year despite our lack of a good striker which the other 2 top sides have, and probably should have made the CL final. Ah well, next year should be better, I wasn't expecting us to come so close in either competition so while he didn't do as well as he could have, he did better than I genuinely expected at the start of the season. Next season should be fun.

 

[Kinlejus]

Thats what I always dislike about him, his constant I won, Then I did, I beat, I got to..... But when he loses its everyone's fault but his own.
He is like Ronaldo in that way, extremely selfish and narcistic.

That's how he manages his impressions, invoking both self-promotion and excuses for his actions while refusing to take any blame on his behalf

 

[puyolshair]

Mourinho couldn't get the richest club in the world to a Champions League final in three seasons - Ancelotti does it this season.

So are you seriously trying to say RM making the CL Final this year has nothing at all to do with the work Mou done in the previous 3 seasons and the world record fee that was spent to improve the team further? and that it has all been down to Ancelotti???

Your bitterness is clearly clouding your judgement.

 

[Kinlejus]

So are you seriously trying to say RM making the CL Final this year has nothing at all to do with the work Mou done in the previous 3 seasons and the world record fee that was spent to improve the team further? and that it has all been down to Ancelotti???

Your bitterness is clearly clouding your judgement.

All the credit shall settle where it's due...and...it is Mou's greatness that took RM to CL final this year, he directly controls Ancelotti on tactics

Oh let me remind you, football isn't wall building

 

[puyolshair]

All the credit shall settle where it's due...and...it is Mou's greatness that took RM to CL final this year, he directly controls Ancelotti on tactics

Oh let me remind you, football isn't wall building

so please explain what huge changes Ancelotti has made? he was given a team that was built by Mou and in a perfect position to win everything and was given a world record signing to add to it!

also please remind me which managers team hold the record for most goals scored in a La Liga season?

 

[JamDav1982]

so please explain what huge changes Ancelotti has made? he was given a team that was built by Mou and in a perfect position to win everything and was given a world record signing to add to it!

also please remind me which managers team hold the record for most goals scored in a La Liga season?

Built by Mourinho... what did they win last season?

Under Mourinho they had trophy wise one of their worst three year periods.

 

[antonnn]

Your bitterness is clearly clouding your judgement.

Mourinho could make a team play the best football in the world for 5 years, win 4 league titles and 2-3 CL's and people's judgement will still be clouded. It's pointless trying to genuinely argue any points to favour Mourinho haha.

 

[JamDav1982]

Mourinho could make a team play the best football in the world for 5 years, win 4 league titles and 2-3 CL's and people's judgement will still be clouded. It's pointless trying to genuinely argue any points to favour Mourinho haha.

He has never done that or even come close so pointless comment.

 

[DonAndres]

so please explain what huge changes Ancelotti has made? he was given a team that was built by Mou and in a perfect position to win everything and was given a world record signing to add to it!

also please remind me which managers team hold the record for most goals scored in a La Liga season?

So you're praising Mou for overspending, veiling it by saying "he built the team". What about the fact that he didn't get nearly the best out of them aside from 11/12. Ancelotti in his first season won them a CDR and got them to a CL final, utilizing his squad perfectly. But yeah go Mou for being the genius who spent all the money.

Mou wasn't able to make a stable/balanced team while Ancelotti has. There's no significance to the fact that Mourinho supposedly "built" the team when he rarely got the best out of them.

 

[Semi-Neutral]

he was given a team that was built by Mou

Except Ancelotti runs a completely different system in all areas of the field, but sure.

 

[antonnn]

Would hate to set a goal and points record for a league, I'd rather be David Moyes.

That said, I won't say Mourinho is a man who builds teams. He needs to be more flexible with his playing style too. But once again, that said, for him to be playing that kind of football and enjoyed the success he's had, you can't say he's shit. That's just being blinded by hate.

 

[Blaugrana Bull]

I think that everybody knows that he is not bad manager. He won 2 CL titles and several other trophies.
BUT his attitude and all that stuff surrounding him makes it very hard to support him in any situation.
And all this "Special One" shit. It is very rare to see Mou presenting something special on the pitch. He has a plan but if that plan doesn't work he seems clueless. In addition to that his plan often is to put 10 men in their own box and pray for someone to slip if he isn't sure about his team being the superior one.

 

[antonnn]

The thing is though, he said the special one quote pretty much once? He's a bit of a colourful person, whether negatively or positively, it's just if he makes some sort of good or memorable quote it's blown up. I do understand the hate from the perspective of judging his personality, but some people let that render them unable to see any good he does.

I won't deny he is too cautious though, but at the same time this Chelsea team isn't perfect either, he can't just buy anyone he wants now due to FFP, so this Chelsea team will need to be kinda built up over years while being successful so we can buy more(or sell unneeded guys for tonnes of cash, Mata, maybe Luiz). I see us winning the EPL next year or the year after and we'll play better football too cause he'll have the players he wants and trusts as opposed to guys he doesn't which leads to him getting the team to retreat back. Obviously even with a bunch of players he trusts he can still do that, like Inter-Barca, but at the same time that kinda thing works against Barca so why not? I'd rather park it and win from some slips/mistakes(which are caused by our players pressure at times) or good counter attacks than try to win against a team that'd kick our ass at some proper football lol. I mean, his first stint with Chelsea he didn't really play bad football, Robben/Duff/Cole with Drogba/Crespo and Lampard scoring pretty freely lead to some pretty decent football.

Like Simeone said, if everyone played the same style, football would be boring. I'm not a massive fan of parking the bus but it makes for a highly interesting match for me at times, I love a clash of styles. It's why I love playing Barcelona, I'm on the edge of my seat the whole time, sitting there watching you guys outplay us and potentially scoring at any time, it drives me insane but I can't look away cause there's also every chance we could beat you too cause we have the players to do it.

 

[DonAK]