Kurt Zouma

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
It doesn't matter what the calls were for, decision makers werent going to sack him and manager started him like nothing happened
Punishment isnt extreme.



It isn't one. You're making it one because you're fixated on a comparison you yourself thought inane. Wonder why.

That said as per usual, use of race now justified as a weapon against him because he happens to be a cunt and won't be checked.
Newslines in Poland already been swarming with racial hate

White nationalists truly a band of sickos

Quarter of a million fine is pretty extreme.

Take away his pets, sponsors and ban him from few games
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Quarter of a million fine is pretty extreme.

Take away his pets, sponsors and ban him from few games

It's extreme to you. Not to him. To him it's a drop in the ocean. A tiny proportion of his earnings and he'll barely feel it considering this + retraction of sponsorship is only a fraction of his wealth.

Imagine you were fined €750 when on 14500 yearly wage for the same act and any bonuses for punctuality on top of that removed.
 
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iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
It's extreme to you. Not to him. To him it's a drop in the ocean. A tiny proportion of his earnings and he'll barely feel it considering this + retraction of sponsorship is only a fraction of his wealth.

Imagine you were fined €750 when on 14500 yearly wage for the same act and any bonuses for punctuality on top of that removed.

Thats not how it works. He will feel the 250,000. Its a lot of money he does not have that lying around. Its gonna hurt more now that he lost his sponsorships and probably wont get any more for a while.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Thats not how it works. He will feel the 250,000. Its a lot of money he does not have that lying around. Its gonna hurt more now that he lost his sponsorships and probably wont get any more for a while.

He won't feel whatever sum he's fined at all when earns almost 12 times that.
He's a cunt and punishment is appropriate if not less severe than should considering all he has to do is avoid jail time and people will forget it happened the moment he apologises, shows (or feigns) remorse and goes through whatever behavioural stuff they make him do. Folk wont even remember he did it if is mature about it and will become a meme like Suarez biting or making remarks toward Evra
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
He won't feel whatever sum he's fined at all when earns almost 12 times that.
He's a cunt and punishment is appropriate if not less severe than should considering all he has to do is avoid jail time and people will forget it happened the moment he apologises, shows (or feigns) remorse and goes through whatever behavioural stuff they make him do. Folk wont even remember he did it if is mature about it and will become a meme like Suarez biting or making remarks toward Evra

Quater of a million for kicking a cat and i dont believe his intent was malicious. 30k-50k fine would be enough. The fine is EXTREME. Everything else he got is fair.
 

Jenks

Senior Member
It isn't one. You're making it one because you're fixated on a comparison you yourself thought inane.

Given that there are people around the world talking about it in these terms that have not interacted with me or reads my posts I think it would be fairer to say that Antonio is the one that made it a racial issue.

Quater of a million for kicking a cat and i dont believe his intent was malicious. 30k-50k fine would be enough. The fine is EXTREME. Everything else he got is fair.

John Terry was fined 220k by the FA for racism even though he was found not guilty in court. Carlos Tevez was fined around 1.2m for missing training sessions with Man City. These are millionaires. They live by different rules. None of this will hurt in the grand scheme of things. A mere mortal would probably already have court dates to worry about.
 

serghei

Senior Member
If you remove all context sure, but why would you? Amazing how this has been allowed to be turned into a race issue just because Zouma is black. Maybe Antonio is less stupid than he sounds.

These idiots who make everything about racism are spitting in the face of people who actually suffered from it.
 

Windhook

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Gnidrologist

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where as when something racist happens nobody cares
You fucking crazy? They are worshiping blacks before every match by public kneeling ritual before every match still. Despite UK being one of the least racist (and also hateful towards whites) countries in the world for quite some time.
 

El Gato

Villarato!
Given that there are people around the world talking about it in these terms that have not interacted with me or reads my posts I think it would be fairer to say that Antonio is the one that made it a racial issue.

What people?
Every reasonable media outlet is occupied by animal cruelty angle. Radios make no mention of anything beside suspension discussion. Antonio remarks not even a % impact and mostly ignored thus far and only nationalists picked up convo because a mere mention of the issue get their insecure asses wound up.
As per usual fixated on irrelevant things entertaining this idiotic discussion whether it's more wrong to kick a cat or not. Probably just to make it feel like it's more ok to say racist shite when juxtaposed next to physical violence. No new angles here

Quater of a million for kicking a cat and i dont believe his intent was malicious. 30k-50k fine would be enough. The fine is EXTREME. Everything else he got is fair.

Lmao kicking a cat not malicious
Give your head a wobble.

He was fined 1/20th of his yearly income.
A good magnitude fine and could have been worse considering he's shown no remorse in immediate aftermath
Shouldn't give a fuck about the amount of money kicking a cat costs a pro player on exorbitant contract and shouldn't project own subjective normie sense of what a sensible amount of money is. Just do what everyone would - apply fraction of income penalty
 
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Gnidrologist

Senior Member
Probably just to make it feel like it's more ok to say racist shite when juxtaposed next to physical violence.
Is it not? Choose which is more painful to you:
a) if i say you're a fucking retard cunt
b) i kick your jaw into your stupid brain with my iron boot
Which is it? Which is the one you'd prefer to be on the end of?
 

BarcaOG

Banned
punishments dont go far enough, fuck zouma, what he did is disgusting, depraved, and criminal

people lose their jobs for much less. fuck him, sack him
 

iniestaGOAT

Senior Member
What people?
Every reasonable media outlet is occupied by animal cruelty angle. Radios make no mention of anything beside suspension discussion. Antonio remarks not even a % impact and mostly ignored thus far and only nationalists picked up convo because a mere mention of the issue get their insecure asses wound up.
As per usual fixated on irrelevant things entertaining this idiotic discussion whether it's more wrong to kick a cat or not. Probably just to make it feel like it's more ok to say racist shite when juxtaposed next to physical violence. No new angles here



Lmao kicking a cat not malicious
Give your head a wobble.

He was fined 1/20th of his yearly income.
A good magnitude fine and could have been worse considering he's shown no remorse in immediate aftermath
Shouldn't give a fuck about the amount of money kicking a cat costs a pro player on exorbitant contract and shouldn't project own subjective normie sense of what a sensible amount of money is. Just do what everyone would - apply fraction of income penalty


Bro if Kurt zouma really kicked a cat with malicious intent the cat would be dead
 

Jenks

Senior Member
What people?
Every reasonable media outlet is occupied by animal cruelty angle. Radios make no mention of anything beside suspension discussion. Antonio remarks not even a % impact and mostly ignored thus far and only nationalists picked up convo because a mere mention of the issue get their insecure asses wound up.
As per usual fixated on irrelevant things entertaining this idiotic discussion whether it's more wrong to kick a cat or not.

Huh? Sky may have turned off the replies to that tweet but the quote tweets still show people engaging with the issue, thousands of them, on different sides of the argument. In fact if anything the interaction is mostly dominated by normies tired of the race baiting on one side and black people claiming this is proof that whites care more about animals then them on the other. If this is not Antonio bringing race into it then I would love to hear how I managed it with my humble football forum posts.
 

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