Kylian Mbappé

[Jair Ventura]

Monaco won the league and went further in the CL than PSG. Teams win titles, players don't.

Teams are made of players.

Individually speaking Mbappe didn't come close to Cavani, or Lewandowski, or Kane.

Yes, he did. I just proved it. Meanwhile, you've provided no counter argument because you can't. You're a new supporter that doesn't understand football.

In regards to Buffon's placing it needs no explanation and if you actually think he was the 4th best player in 2017 you're out of your mind. Keep in mind these so called "experts" also thought Ramos was the 6th best player in the world ahead of your beloved Mbappe.

Is all you do is troll and insult people? Two pages, multiple post, and you've yet to put forward an argument or counter argument.

 

[Ousmane Dembélé]

Teams are made of players.

And Mbappe is one out of eleven.

Yes, he did. I just proved it. Meanwhile, you've provided no counter argument because you can't.

Lewandowski, Cavani and Kane all scored around 20 more goals than Mbappe did in the 2017 calendar year.

Is all you do is troll and insult people? Two pages, multiple post, and you've yet to put forward an argument or counter argument.

The fact that you actually think Buffon was the 4th best player in 2017 is laughable and speaks volumes about your judgement when it comes to football. There is no reason for me to explain why Buffon's ranking wasn't justified when everyone with eyes can tell he didn't deserve 4th place and it was just a lifetime achievement award of sorts. Navas made the CL final and actually won it, in addition to winning a much tougher league in La Liga. Where is he in the top 5? Navas isn't in the top 5 because he doesn't deserve it and neither does Buffon and if the roles were reversed I'm pretty confident Navas wouldn't finish close to 4th.

 

[Jair Ventura]

And Mbappe is one out of eleven.

One of the most important and influential of the 11, across two different clubs.

Lewandowski, Cavani and Kane all scored around 20 more goals than Mbappe did in the 2017 calendar year.

No, they didn't(Kane), nor is the ballon d'or a measure of goals scored.

The fact that you actually think Buffon was the 4th best player in 2017 is laughable and speaks volumes about your judgement when it comes to football. There is no reason for me to explain why Buffon's ranking wasn't justified when everyone with eyes can tell he didn't deserve 4th place and it was just a lifetime achievement award of sorts. Navas made the CL final and actually won it, in addition to winning a much tougher league in La Liga. Where is he in the top 5? Navas isn't in the top 5 because he doesn't deserve it and neither does Buffon and if the roles were reversed I'm pretty confident Navas wouldn't finish close to 4th.

When you provide an actual counter argument as to why Buffon didn't deserve 4th, I'll listen.

 

[Ousmane Dembélé]

One of the most important and influential of the 11, across two different clubs.

You cannot attribute team successes to any single player, regardless of how influential they may be. The Ballon D'or is an award that is supposed to be given to the best player in the world, not the best player on a winning team.

No, they didn't(Kane), nor is the ballon d'or a measure of goals scored.

Notice I said the word "around."

When you provide an actual counter argument as to why Buffon didn't deserve 4th, I'll listen.

Navas made the CL final and actually won it, in addition to winning a much tougher league in La Liga. Where is he in the top 5? Navas isn't in the top 5 because he doesn't deserve it and neither does Buffon and if the roles were reversed I'm pretty confident Navas wouldn't finish close to 4th.

Respond to the above, that you conveniently ignored in my last post.

 

[Jair Ventura]

You cannot attribute team successes to any single player, regardless of how influential they may be. The Ballon D'or is an award that is supposed to be given to the best player in the world, not the best player on a winning team.

You can assess a players contributions or value to a teams success. I.e. Mbappe was a valuable contributor to Monaco and now PSG. This is basic football analysis.

Notice I said the word "around."

Notice that I said it didn't happen. I'm waiting for you to prove your statement, and after you fail trying to do so, I'll point out the flaw in using the goal scoring totals of out and out strikers to argue for why they've been better than a Winger/SS. I'll go on to point out that Mbappe has nearly has as many assist over the last calendar year as Cavani, Lewandowski and Kane combined, but that he plays a different role than they, so boiling down the argument to one of who has the better stats is fallacious at best. The entire picture must be taken into a account, and the picture painted by Mbappe in 2017 has been as phenomenal as any attacking player in the world not named Messi, Neymar, and Ronaldo.

Navas made the CL final and actually won it, in addition to winning a much tougher league in La Liga. Where is he in the top 5? Navas isn't in the top 5 because he doesn't deserve it and neither does Buffon and if the roles were reversed I'm pretty confident Navas wouldn't finish close to 4th.

Respond to the above, that you conveniently ignored in my last post.

Was Keylor Navas as important to Real Madrid's success as Buffon was to Juventus? There's your answer.

 

[Jair Ventura]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">34 - <a href="https://twitter.com/KMbappe?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KMbappe</a> has been involved in 34 goals in Ligue 1 since 2016/17 (21 goals, 13 assists), at least 20 more than any other U20 player from the top 5 leagues in the same period. Fantastic. <a href="https://t.co/v1c1ORFMI9">pic.twitter.com/v1c1ORFMI9</a></p>— OptaJean (@OptaJean) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptaJean/status/939553954911997952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Barcaman]

Yes, he is better than Neymar already. Poor Neyboy. There is no way he will live with it for 4 more years

 

[JamDav1982]

He isnt better than Neymar. Not even all that close.

 

[Total-Football]

beast.. we should have told neymar.to go with his.check.to.monaco and bring mbappe .. that would.have been an amazing investment.

 

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[FCBfan22]

Why is this man saying that Mbappe equalised Usain Bolt's human speed record from 2009, which is 44,72 kmph after playing 90 minutes of football, while controlling a ball? I mean he is faast, but this is bullshit.

 

[Neymessi]

Yes, he is better than Neymar already. Poor Neyboy. There is no way he will live with it for 4 more years

Its like people everywhere rooting for the underdog to win between mbappe and neymar.

Mbappe isn't close to neymar in skills or performances.

 

[serghei]

Why is this man saying that Mbappe equalised Usain Bolt's human speed record from 2009, which is 44,72 kmph after playing 90 minutes of football, while controlling a ball? I mean he is faast, but this is bullshit.

Imagine what he'd do when he is fresh. Bolt would be humiliated.

Mbappe is so fast that the linesmen only see a blur when they look for offsides.

 

[FCBfan22]

Imagine what he'd do when he is fresh. Bolt would be humiliated.

Mbappe is so fast that the linesmen only see a blur when they look for offsides.

Imagine what would he do in the Olympics if he ditches football and trains 100m sprinting for 2 years? He would ruin the competition in Tokyo. Sub 9.50 time here we come.

 

[Morten]

So, Mbappe is faster than prime Bolt now? With a ball at his feets?
Yeah thats bullshit.