La Liga 14/15

[Bertus]

I don't necessarily agree. The vast majority of these wrong decisions for RM are game openers for them, like today breaking down a stubborn Celta side. Game totally changes when you're able to get on the board, specially for a RM team who thrives on the space opponents give them when they go out to get the game as opposed to sitting back and defending.
If you go back and watch these bad decisions, a lot of them have been happening to open up the game or break the game for them. It helps enormously.

If barca won against RM, people would boast about how they don't care because despite all that Barca is ahead.

You guys are talking as if what's happened is new this season. It's not.

 

[raskolnikov]

I don't necessarily agree. The vast majority of these wrong decisions for RM are game openers for them, like today breaking down a stubborn Celta side. Game totally changes when you're able to get on the board, specially for a RM team who thrives on the space opponents give them when they go out to get the game as opposed to sitting back and defending.
If you go back and watch these bad decisions, a lot of them have been happening to open up the game or break the game for them. It helps enormously.

Its what Ronaldo knows and does, dive when there isnt scored or when he himself has not scored,logically he gets enraged when he doesnt get a penaldo, cause he is so used to it, remember last years 1-2 liga away classico and his reaction to a easy fall.
All of them are like this though, hypocrits.

 

[Bertus]

Sorry but if i see such BS calls from the ref then it doesn´t matter if they would have won probably anyway.
We also get calls our way so does any Team in the league.But the things RM sometimes get is just incredible.
Still remember that retarded offside call against Mallorca 2 years ago or that freakin Penalty against Elche last season(You know the one were pepe fouled the Elche player in the last minutes of the match and gets a Penalty).

Then debate about it all you want, it's your right. But that won't change anything.

If Barca was at its best, it wouldn't make a difference if RM gets penaldos.

 

[DonAK]

If barca won against RM, people would boast about how they don't care because despite all that Barca is ahead.

You guys are talking as if what's happened is new this season. It's not.

Which makes it even more pathetic and tiring.

 

[Sumlit]

If barca won against RM, people would boast about how they don't care because despite all that Barca is ahead.

You guys are talking as if what's happened is new this season. It's not.

I don't agree with the first sentence. If Barca were still ahead in the league, people would still be complaining about this because it is so blatant. You're right though this is not a new development, but the brazen way it's happening is a bit alarming.

 

[Bertus]

Which makes it even more pathetic and tiring.

Not really to me, seriously I blame Barca's board more than the ref.

RM fixed many things that were wrong. While Barca reacted late and still didn't fix some important things.

If Barca reacted properly, I fully believe they would be ahead of RM right now, and like in the past, no one would care about penaldos. Even better, people here would laugh at RM because even with bad refs help, they would still be behind.

 

[Luftstalag14]

Actually, if you win your next match, you have taken 1 more points against the rest of the teams than us. So you are sligthly better against the rest. And you can only improve, we have almost reached our full potential allready.

IN THEORY only, which makes very little sense.

And there is nothing guaranteed that we can only improve while you have reached your potential. We could have been a lot worse, and in reality we could be a lot worse in the 2nd half of the season.

 

[Sumlit]

Not really to me, seriously I blame Barca's board more than the ref.

RM fixed many things that were wrong. While Barca reacted late and still didn't fix some important things.

If Barca reacted properly, I fully believe they would be ahead of RM right now, and like in the past, no one would care about penaldos. Even better, people here would laugh at RM because even with bad refs help, they would still be behind.

Forgive me Bertus but this is absurd. Barca's state has nothing to do with RM getting blatant bad calls go their way on a consistent basis in La Liga, many of which are most definitely influencing the outcomes of games.

Barca have the same number of loses and only one tie really separates the teams with Barca having to play tomorrow. So even with RM as you say having fixed things and Barca having not, their results are very even.

 

[Luftstalag14]

I don't necessarily agree. The vast majority of these wrong decisions for RM are game openers for them, like today breaking down a stubborn Celta side. Game totally changes when you're able to get on the board, specially for a RM team who thrives on the space opponents give them when they go out to get the game as opposed to sitting back and defending.
If you go back and watch these bad decisions, a lot of them have been happening to open up the game or break the game for them. It helps enormously.

Sure, but the point is, it is useless to keep complaining about the favors Real Madrid received. If we are good enough, we will win games, the league and even the treble no matter what is going on in the outside world. But we are not. Let's focus on improving us, which is the most important thing.

 

[Bertus]

IN THEORY only, which makes very little sense.

And there is nothing guaranteed that we can only improve while you have reached your potential. We could have been a lot worse, and in reality we could be a lot worse in the 2nd half of the season.

+1

Last week, Barca won at the last second with a Bravo that did one of his best games of his life.

Barca feels like they are sometimes on the edge. While RM is way less stressfull to watch and follow so far.

 

[Sumlit]

Sure, but the point is, it is useless to keep complaining about the favors Real Madrid received. If we are good enough, we will win games, the league and even the treble no matter what is going on in the outside world. But we are not. Let's focus on improving us, which is the most important thing.

Those are separate issues. Barcelona's state and RM getting bad calls in their favor have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Nothing whatsoever.

 

[Bertus]

Forgive me Bertus but this is absurd. Barca's state has nothing to do with RM getting blatant bad calls go their way on a consistent basis in La Liga, many of which are most definitely influencing the outcomes of games.

Barca have the same number of loses and only one tie really separates the teams with Barca having to play tomorrow. So even with RM as you say having fixed things and Barca having not, their results are very even.

Well, I don't know what to say.

Bad refs and ranking aside, it's pretty clear to me that RM is above if you watch them play on a regular basis.

AS I said above, Barca feels like they are on the edge.

And I'm not trying to say you guys can't discuss it. As if I had that right. I just say how I feel about it. Feel free to write ten pages about the refs and ronaldo if you want.

 

[Luftstalag14]

+1

Last week, Barca won at the last second with a Bravo that did one of his best games of his life.

Barca feels like they are sometimes on the edge. While RM is way less stressfull to watch and follow so far.

Yeah, on the contrary, I felt it was us that has reached the limit in a way, that we are out of gas, out of passion, out of a lot of things. Real Madrid, on the other hand, despite some hiccups, are on their way up, with or without those favors they got.

 

[Sumlit]

+1

Last week, Barca won at the last second with a Bravo that did one of his best games of his life.

Barca feels like they are sometimes on the edge. While RM is way less stressfull to watch and follow so far.

Yeah and maybe RM would be winning the same way too if they weren't getting bail-out decisions to open up games for them. Need I remind you Suarez scored a legitimate goal that was disallowed which could have and likely would have influence the way the game played from that point on.

If Barcelona were getting offside goals and penalties on a consistent basis to open up games for them, I can guarantee you they'd be struggling a lot less.

 

[DonAK]

Yeah, on the contrary, I felt it was us that has reached the limit in a way, that we are out of gas, out of passion, out of a lot of things. Real Madrid, on the other hand, despite some hiccups, are on their way up, with or without those favors they got.

That's what doesn't make any sense. In some games when they have gotten their favours in the dying moments of the match and snatched some points then how would have they have been ahead?

They wouldn't.

Because they wouldn't have got those full points. Because they only got those with the favours.

No one is saying that they are a shit team or anything and disregarding their performance this season.