Lautaro Martinez

[JamDav1982]

My first choice for the CF is Haaland but think he will eventually go to the Prem. After that, I really like Jimenez aswell. But he is a bit old. Among the younger guys, only Osimhen has this profile so I would honestly go for him instead of Lautaro/Werner etc.

A 9 should be a 9.

Lautaro Martinez is a 9 from what I have seen.

 

[soul24rage]

As long as Suarez is here, I wouldn't want any potential #9 starter to join the club unless Suarez takes a pay cut and is ok to being a back up striker (fat chance I'd say for that one)

 

[malvolio]

As long as Suarez is here, I wouldn't want any potential #9 starter to join the club unless Suarez takes a pay cut and is ok to being a back up striker (fat chance I'd say for that one)

being a backup/rotational player maybe. pay cut - why would he? he'll run out his contract as it is and then he's gone.

 

[soul24rage]

being a backup/rotational player maybe. pay cut - why would he? he'll run out his contract as it is and then he's gone.

that's why I said fat chance that it'll happen.

 

[LABarcaFan]

Even though Suarez will be gone next summer, it makes no sense to buy Lautaro and play him out of position for a full year. That will be a huge mistake. No matter in what shape is Suarez he will be the starter. He and Leo won't accept any other option. Lautaro plays as a fake # 9 in Inter as Lukaku is their primary striker. But in Barcelona, Messi has taken that spot for himself. Having that in mind, Lautaro will be forced to play maybe as a LW and will face the same exactly problems as Griezmann and Dembele or even Coutinho.

 

[Messigician]

Even though Suarez will be gone next summer, it makes no sense to buy Lautaro and play him out of position for a full year. That will be a huge mistake. No matter in what shape is Suarez he will be the starter. He and Leo won't accept any other option. Lautaro plays as a fake # 9 in Inter as Lukaku is their primary striker. But in Barcelona, Messi has taken that spot for himself. Having that in mind, Lautaro will be forced to play maybe as a LW and will face the same exactly problems as Griezmann and Dembele or even Coutinho.

Dembele is a natural LW has no preferred foot

 

[BBZ8800]

This is also my opinion. We have midfield that does not provide anything , and another striker like this which main power is defensive work rate...No thank you.

That's my problem, the bigger picture.
Our future currently seems as Spanish 4-6-0 under Del Bosque from 10 years ago:
No attackers, no one can score, yet we will hold the ball for 90 minutes.

Imagine our lineup in 2 years:
Frenkie: can't do anything in the attacking third, he needs "someone else" to create
Arthur: can't do anything in terms of creating. He needs "someone else" alongside him to create and score
Griezmann: a forward who is better at workrate, defending and creating than at scoring. He needs "someone else" alongside him to score.
Lautaro: another forward who's main skills are workrate and linkup, and not actual finishing. He needs "someone else" alongside him to score.

This is all good while Messi is here and while he is able to score 50 goals per season.
What about post-Messi era?
These players look like Arsenal's level when you blend them together.

Or even worse, imagine even Neymar on a field with them, lol.
Frenkie-Arthur-someone, Neymar-Griezz-Lautaro, wtf

This board, lol.

Seriously, when you remove Messi and his impact, Barto's signings and ideas how to build a team are actually worse than Gaspart's in early 2000s.

Zero ideas, zero understanding of a bigger picture.
Barto is buying players this way:
Let's open the papers and youtube and check which guy is the most popular/youngest currently:
Dembele=buy him
Coutinho=buy him
Griezz=buy him
Neymar for the 2nd time=buy him
Lautaro=buy him

 

[MTL_Barca]

At this point i'm not even sure if all these signings were meant to make the team less dependent on Messi or more dependent on Messi. I mean the outcome is the team depending on him more than ever but i also feel that wasn't intended

 

[mc_lovin]

These players look like Arsenal's level when you blend them together.

Or even worse, imagine even Neymar on a field with them, lol.
Frenkie-Arthur-someone, Neymar-Griezz-Lautaro, wtf

Thats a topclass attack to be fair Dont get me wrong, I dont want Neymar back, but if we line up Neymar-Lautaro-Griezmann in 2 years (given they are as good as now), we cant really complain (at least performance wise). Arsenal level my arse.

Your paranoia is surreal. Del Bosques infamous 4-6-0 was a consequence of Spains lack of worldclass forwards/strikers, he abused playmakers like Silva for wide positions. Something we recently did with Coutinho, who you were a big fan of, and hopefully learned our lesson. As soon as we signed him you should have rioted given your view of football (but you didnt, why?).

Right now we have Trincao, Griezmann, Fati and Dembele lined up post Messi and are apparently front runners for Martinez - those players, worldclass or not, have nothing in common with the players spain used. Completely different profiles. Whether they become worldclass or not is a different question and will determine our success, but I dont know what your expectations are: we can only hope now, we cant magically create the Messis, Ronaldinhos, Ronaldos of this world out of thin air - see Real Madrid.


Regarding Arthur-Frenkie: same old discussion. You either see talent and expect their numbers to match up with it sooner or later or you dont. But generally "creativity" doesnt happen in a vacuum, which means you need worldclass runners of the ball. We will see how things turn out when they take leading roles in the team with a young, hungry attack (and not cover for Busquets, Rakitic, Vidal, Messi).

 

[Riordon]

It is so obvious we lack speed and runners in behind in our attack. Jimenez, Rashford, Haaland, Sane, Richarlison is players who would fit and could be available. Two of these alongside Messi in our attack and Im confident we will win CL.

Messi wants the ball at his feet all the time. Dembele, Griezmann, Coutinho, and now Suarez aswell. Lautaro is another one of these type of players. We need outlets who can help our midfield stretch the pitch.

Our issue and problem is so easy to see and fix. Give me two of the mentioned players in our attack and we will be much much better already

 

[mc_lovin]

It is so obvious we lack speed and runners in behind in our attack. Jimenez, Rashford, Haaland, San?, Richarlison is players who would fit and could be available. Two of these alongside Messi in our attack and I?m confident we will win CL.

Whats with the Jimenez hype recently? Too old, too expensive. San? Like Son? Would be ridiculously expensive as well (and nightmarish to negotiate with Tottenham). Rashford the same.

As for Haaland: we have dominant midfielders, why abandon our style? I have a good hunch that Haaland will look terrible in possession football.

 

[Riordon]

Whats with the Jimenez hype recently? Too old, too expensive. San? Like Son? Would be ridiculously expensive as well (and nightmarish to negotiate with Tottenham). Rashford the same.

As for Haaland: we have dominant midfielders, why abandon our style? I have a good hunch that Haaland will look terrible in possession football.

Old yes but he is really really great. Could give us 3-4 seasons surely. Was meaning San?. Don?t think Haaland will look terrible in possession football at all. Actually he help our midfield by giving them passing options with his pace, running in behind, general movement.

Rashford very expensive yes but he is a personal favorite of mine

 

[Andresito]

Neymar-Griezz-Lautaro, wtf

To be fair:

PSG Neymar - 80 games, 69 goals
Atleti Griezmann - 257 games, 133 goals
Inter Lautaro - 66 games, 25 goals

Lautaro has 9 goals in 17 games as primary striker for Argentina.

They aren't THAT bad goalscorers, and I'd expect these numbers to be higher if they'd play together at Barca.

 

[malvolio]

Jimenez, Rashford, Haaland, Sane, Richarlison is players who would fit and could be available.

People in here should stop dreaming and fantasizing over players that are either not available or too expensive to take into consideration.

Jimenez - 29 years of age an didn't really set the world alight up until now. You might think "oh but Suarez came to us at about the same age". Yes, but Suarez is a generational talent who demolished the Erediviese and Premier League before coming here.

Rashford - why would man utd sell? why would a guy like rashford want to leave the confort zone of his country and club that raised him, to come here? not to mention he is not that good for the money.

Haaland - just moved to dortmund. he already is more expensive than lautaro and looks more suited to premier league or bundesliga. not to mention he is a nowegian kid that would have to adapt in barcelona. and you also have raiola. just too many ifs and buts with him.

Sane - bayern bound. and he is a winger

Richarlison - he achieved less than lautaro up until now. why would we want him? just because he is cheaper?

 

[mc_lovin]

Old yes but he is really really great. Could give us 3-4 seasons surely. Was meaning San?. Don?t think Haaland will look terrible in possession football at all. Actually he help our midfield by giving them passing options with his pace, running in behind, general movement.

Rashford very expensive yes but he is a personal favorite of mine

You wrote "San?" - and edited it to Sane now ;D I wouldnt oppose him and Rashford (big fan as well), but they are easily 100ME+ players. With Lautaro theres hope for 60ME+players.

Re Haaland: either that or he gets marked out of the game by good defenders and gives them a focal point to concentrate on, because hes technically not good enough. No way to predict now, but hes far from the perfect striker hes made out to be.