Lautaro Martinez

Messi983

Senior Member
Was in regards to this:

Planning with Griezmann in the center is a bad idea. Its Suarez and (potentially) Lautaro - or noone.

IF Setien stays and continues with a 4-3-1-2 formation we're playing in last games do you think Messi behind Griez-Lautaro could work? Because that's the only way I think signing Lautaro makes any sense. Otherwise if Suarez stays in the lineup we'll have the same problems we have now. Two players upfront who don't defend, we'll just add another 100m rotational player who will be played out of his best position if we'll try to play 4-3-3.

Or do we need Suarez in the lineup because he's the only one who can score (despite all his other limitations which are pretty obvious at this point)? But then a question is why spend 200m on two strikers who can't score enough to keep Suarez out of the lineup? I know you like Lautaro and I think he would clearly bring some positives to the team but if he can't do what he's supposed to do (score goals) then anything else good he might do won't be enough.
 

Porque

Senior Member
IF Setien stays and continues with a 4-3-1-2 formation we're playing in last games do you think Messi behind Griez-Lautaro could work? Because that's the only way I think signing Lautaro makes any sense. Otherwise if Suarez stays in the lineup we'll have the same problems we have now. Two players upfront who don't defend, we'll just add another 100m rotational player who will be played out of his best position if we'll try to play 4-3-3.

Or do we need Suarez in the lineup because he's the only one who can score (despite all his other limitations which are pretty obvious at this point)? But then a question is why spend 200m on two strikers who can't score enough to keep Suarez out of the lineup? I know you like Lautaro and I think he would clearly bring some positives to the team but if he can't do what he's supposed to do (score goals) then anything else good he might do won't be enough.

A support striker behind 2 support striker. Sounds fire.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
We need a forward to replace Suarez first. Even in this state, Suarez is a goalscorer. The only one consistent at scoring besides Messi. If lauraro can't do that, he is just not useful to us.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Firpo is part of the deal to get Lautaro? So we have Miranda as our backup LB to an increasingly fragile Alba?

What a terrific plan. Let's hope we won't be able to sell the players we wanted to get the money Inter wanted for Lautaro.
 

PhilS

Active member
Well, I'm sure Lautero will work out a lot better than the last half dozen forwards the team has brought it.

Up front for Barca, you must combine well with Messi. If not, you gotta go. Greizmann should leave, ideally. Greizmann would be a lot better on a different team.

Of course, any new forward needs to permit the team to be able to be offensively effective when Suarez is not on the field. No one wants Suarez to have to play so much at this stage of his career, not even Suarez.
 

Laplacian

Senior Member
I totally agree with almost everything you've said, the only difference is that I think griezman will be the one mostly riding the bench. It's actually absurd that we're willing to take such a huge risk filling a position that doesn't exist for the 3rd time! I hope this is just paper talk and I'm over reacting.

I thought the griezmann rumors were insane too, then we bought him.
 

Devils

Senior Member
This guy is gonna be the most useless forward we have signed. The Coutinho looks smart in retrospect, at least he was great before he came here.

Give it ~5 years and this guy will be back working on the cattle farms in Argentina, dawg.
 
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khaled_a_d

Senior Member
IF Setien stays and continues with a 4-3-1-2 formation we're playing in last games do you think Messi behind Griez-Lautaro could work?

Games? Is there is any other game than Villarreal we played with it? And They were attacking us and leaving space.
Not sure it will work long term tbh.
Also, all 3 are basically second strikers , sure Messi under Setien seem more settled as AM rather than SS but that is small sample size in comparison to last 4 years. Even then Lautaro & Griezmann still play within same areas, only thing in their favour is Griezmann being left footed and might lean more to right side in comparison to Lautaro
 

serghei

Senior Member
Please don't sign players who will only be useful after 2-3 seasons when the veterans are gone. In 2-3 years we're gonna finish him and he'll turn up into Coutinho. Save the money, splash big once Suarez and Messi are not commanding the line up front. Please...
 

Toecrusher

New member
Anyone with a strong opinion on Victor Osimhen from Lille?

Seems like someone with pace and who likes to run in behind. Watching a couple of videos gives me strong Eto'o vibes.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
And he's close to join Napoli.

Games? Is there is any other game than Villarreal we played with it? And They were attacking us and leaving space.
Not sure it will work long term tbh.
Also, all 3 are basically second strikers , sure Messi under Setien seem more settled as AM rather than SS but that is small sample size in comparison to last 4 years. Even then Lautaro & Griezmann still play within same areas, only thing in their favour is Griezmann being left footed and might lean more to right side in comparison to Lautaro

That's why I was asking @mc_lovin. He seems to be the only one here who supports signing Lautaro and thinks he can play as a #9 so basically replace Suarez.

Please don't sign players who will only be useful after 2-3 seasons when the veterans are gone. In 2-3 years we're gonna finish him and he'll turn up into Coutinho. Save the money, splash big once Suarez and Messi are not commanding the line up front. Please...

Exactly. That's why I'm more looking for cheap strikers who are not good enough yet but could potentially be in two years and I'd buy one or two of them and send them on loan for a few seasons.
 

mc_lovin

Senior Member
That's why I was asking @mc_lovin. He seems to be the only one here who supports signing Lautaro and thinks he can play as a #9 so basically replace Suarez.

Just to be clear: Lautaro IS a #9. The Griezmann comparisons are kind of stupid and lazy. I cant repeat that more often: hes not a 2nd striker. Maybe he is being misused by Inter recently to play Lukaku in a more advanced role (whos pretty useless otherwise).

But just rewatch Lautaros game at Camp Nou: he was leading the line. The issue with him is consistency - he looked like a world beater in CL and kind of average in the League. I am pretty forgiving for his post break performances though, he looked disinterested and lacked his usual tenaciousness. Maybe thats because he is with his head in Barcelona or because the League is gone. Inter is a mess as well.

And again, I dont think hes a 100ME+ player yet, but from the strikers on the market hes my preferred option. It helps that I dont rate Haaland that much though :S
 

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