Lionel Messi - v7

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Form is temporary but class if permanent. Messi will always be a good wildcard to have even if he doesn't output much.

For now he can still be effective given enough rest. He should be used as a sub in the second half when the opponent has some tired legs, in my opinion.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
Him becoming a turnover merchant started when we were chasing the lead for a second time and Koeman went with the Fifa tactics against (Defenders out --> Attackers in). For me he was alright on the ball the 1st half and horrible the second.

Just to make it clear , I'm not absolving him of any blame , ofc he was part of it (being more clinical the second half for example). But the defenders were the biggest ones and Messi doesn't even come close to that.

True I think Koeman kills the team when there's no defenseman or midfielders. Players have no idea where to play and it's a mess. Look at the situation Trincao was trying to defend 1vs1. He should never be put to situation like that.n
 

serghei

Senior Member
For now he can still be effective given enough rest. He should be used as a sub in the second half when the opponent has some tired legs, in my opinion.

Not so sure about that. He was supposedly rested today.

He needs a total change of style. It's not happening. Players don't reinvent themselves at near 34. Especially those who live in denial like Messi is.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
For the love of God let him leave in January. It's sad see this.

This 1000x. He will be wasted here and we can't afford his salary anyway.. Sign Depay and Wienajdum. Whatever. They will give us more than Messi in his current mental state.

Actually, even if we sign nobody, let Messi go.. He has checked out from Barca.n
 

xxxxxx

Senior Member
He doesn't care. Every single thing he's doing looks lazy.

I know players decline, but I don't think that's the main reason why he's playing so poorly this season. I do think it's down to him not giving a shit. Yeah, he's not as good as he used to be..... but, I think it's more to do with his lack of motivation and the fact he doesn't want to be here. He can't carry like he used to, so having average support around him doesn't help. He needs major help.
 

serghei

Senior Member
He doesn't care. Every single thing he's doing looks lazy.

I know players decline, but I don't think that's the main reason why he's playing so poorly this season. I do think it's down to him not giving a shit. Yeah, he's not as good as he used to be..... but, I think it's more to do with his lack of motivation and the fact he doesn't want to be here. He can't carry like he used to, so having average support around him doesn't help. He needs major help.

:lol:

And people think I'm shitting on Messi. This is worse.

You basically call him a piece of shit.
 

xxxxxx

Senior Member
This 1000x. He will be wasted here and we can't afford his salary anyway.. Sign Depay and Wienajdum. Whatever. They will give us more than Messi in his current mental state.

Actually, even if we sign nobody, let Messi go.. He has checked out from Barca.n

We all know that isn't going to happen. The idiot electees are going to do everything in their power to keep Messi happy. They're going to put us in further debt just to keep Messi here.

I just don't get how they see Messi as the future when he's 34 next year. True Barcelona fans will understand if Messi wants to play for another club. He's earned it. We'll wish him the best and hope he wins trophies.
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
Not so sure about that. He was supposedly rested today.

He needs a total change of style. It's not happening. Players don't reinvent themselves at near 34. Especially those who live in denial like Messi is.

I think he did well in the first half.

One thing with him (and Busquets) playing is that we have zero pace. For that reason alone I don't want him to play, at least not in the first half.
 

serghei

Senior Member
I think he did well in the first half.

One thing with him (and Busquets) playing is that we have zero pace. For that reason alone I don't want him to play, at least not in the first half.

Even when he does well, it's purely his individual quality. The team's cohesiveness and positioning is still shit. This is why there is no coming back for Messi at Barcelona. It's done.

Many things in his game are shit even when he does great.
 

xxxxxx

Senior Member
:lol:

And people think I'm shitting on Messi. This is worse.

You basically call him a piece of shit.

How am I calling him a piece of shit? I'm saying he doesn't look bothered and he's being lazy.... which he is for the most part. He doesn't want to be here. You can tell that by his body language.

I wasn't even against him leaving back in August because I knew this would happen. I knew this would be his worst season for us. When you're lacking motivation and you don't want to be here, it's going to affect your performance. It's not a coincidence anymore. Yeah, he's not as good as he used to be.... but that's not because he's "declined." It's more to do with the reasons I've stated.
 

FinBarcelonafan

Well-known member
We all know that isn't going to happen. The idiot electees are going to do everything in their power to keep Messi happy. They're going to put us in further debt just to keep Messi here.

I just don't get how they see Messi as the future when he's 34 next year. True Barcelona fans will understand if Messi wants to play for another club. He's earned it. We'll wish him the best and hope he wins trophies.

Exactly. Time to move on and thank him for the years of service and beautiful moments!
 

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