Lionel Messi - v7

Clowns would never say his performance of 18/19 cl is one of the best ever ig f not the best run by any player ever ... 2 seasons laters he still puts some good performance... unfortunately for him .. his standards is too high so trolls will forever want him in every cl match to score hatrick ... they all think of numbers statistics not his overall play that?s why for example his goat performance vs man city in 2015 won?t count cause he failed to score 😂
 

bismp

Well-known member
this team would score like 4 CL KO goals in 6 years and run an aggregate deficit of double digits every year :shakeshead:

:lol:

Messi has scored since 2016 like 15 CL KO goals,which by the way have to be more than half our total goals.Cut the crap,the whole forum is aware of your behavior.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
no, he was indeed great in 2015. hence why we won it that year.

but it matters little if messi was great at home v liverpool in 2019 if it meant he went to anfield and shit his pants while we lost 4-0 and were eliminated. not like it was a close affair: they annihilated us. you can be eliminated with dignity but messi has a habit of doing nothing while our team habitually gets 3+ goals scored against it.

some leadership that is lol
 

BarcaOG

Banned
:lol:

Messi has scored since 2016 like 15 CL KO goals,which by the way have to be more than half our total goals.Cut the crap,the whole forum is aware of your behavior.

15 CL KO goals since 2016 is a pathetic number from someone who is supposed to be the GOAT. CR scored that and more in a single season at his peak, lol
 

BarcaOG

Banned
Anyway... those who understand Spanish can you please tell me what this clown is saying start from 4:15

https://youtu.be/mAk3Zg79jWg

What this is a brilliant take from one of Argentina's most respected sports journalists. Like many many Argentinians he has seen messi choke time and again and here he is calling him out for doing it for barcelona, year in, year out. great take by lieberman

edit: what he is saying is that throughout his career messi has always needed great, world class supporting players (iniesta, xavi, ronaldinho) and leaders (puyol, macherano) for him to deliver his best. and that without such support, messi simply isnt good enough to win a match. he says--its not his fault. he's an excellent footballer (which he is) but not a leader and not a match winner, not unless he is adequately supported


TRUTHHHHHH only maradona was that, the real GOAT
 
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KingLeo10

Senior Member
15 CL KO goals since 2016 is a pathetic number from someone who is supposed to be the GOAT. CR scored that and more in a single season at his peak, lol

Braindead. :lol:

Why do you persist in polluting the thread with actual falsehoods over and over.

EDIT: 6 posts on a single page by BarcaOG having another one of his unhinged evenings. I'm not even sure why he's allowed to do the same thing over and over after every ban.
 
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bismp

Well-known member
15 CL KO goals since 2016 is a pathetic number from someone who is supposed to be the GOAT. CR scored that and more in a single season at his peak, lol

Firstly,CR never scored 15 CL KO goals in a single season.

Secondly,Leo’s G per game ratio during this time span in the CL KO is roughly 0,65 goals per game.

It is not elite,but it is pretty good,especially considering:

-Most of the teams those years were mediocre

-Along being the primary scorer(and the world “primary” is a severe understatement,as the second best goal scorer was Suarez who scored less than 10 goals and no other player scored more like 2-3 goals) he was also the primary creator.CR or Lewandowski were never involved in playmaking like Leo.

-As others have said,this time span was not even Leo’s prime.In no sport and in no era is it fair to count the twilight years of a player against him.That said,he is still great at this age.

Please tell me whether any guy in history has been better at 33-34 years old during a whole season.
 

BarcaOG

Banned
Braindead. :lol:

Why do you persist in polluting the thread with actual falsehoods over and over.

EDIT: 6 posts on a single page by BarcaOG having another one of his unhinged evenings. I'm not even sure why he's allowed to do the same thing over and over after every ban.

because it doesnt say anywhere in the rules that i cant. you on the other hand are always non-stop insulting (calling me clown), bullying and harassing other posters here, makes me sick that you think youre a big guy just because you do this on the internet

if you want to see what doing it for your team WHEN IT MATTERS looks like in the CL, look no further than CR's MULTIPLE destructions of bayern, atletico (which messi cant even touch in the CL) and juventus. messi has and will never come close to doing it like that, scoring hattricks and doubles every match against these kinds of teams
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Firstly,CR never scored 15 CL KO goals in a single season.

Secondly,Leo’s G per game ration during this time span in the CL KO is roughly 0,65 goals per game.

It is not elite,but it is pretty good,especially considering:

-Most of the teams those years were mediocre

-Along being the primary scorer(and the world “primary” is a severe understatement,as the second best goal scorer was Suarez who scored less than 10 goals and no other player scored more like 2-3 goals) he was also the primary creator.CR or Lewandowski were never involved in playmaking like Leo.

-As others have said,this time span was not even Leo’s prime.In no sport and in no era is it fair to count the twilight years of a player against him.That said,he is still great at this age.

Please tell me whether any guy in history has been better at 33-34 years old during a whole season.

Not to mention he likes to twerk for CR7 but CR7 did absolutely fuck all in his physical prime in the CL or LL between 08 and 12 other than being Barca's punching bag.

But then again, this is the same lad who claimed Messi's prime began in 2013 or 2014 just so he could continue his drivel.

:lol:
 

BarcaOG

Banned
Firstly,CR never scored 15 CL KO goals in a single season.

Secondly,Leo?s G per game ratio during this time span in the CL KO is roughly 0,65 goals per game.

It is not elite,but it is pretty good,especially considering:

-Most of the teams those years were mediocre

-Along being the primary scorer(and the world ?primary? is a severe understatement,as the second best goal scorer was Suarez who scored less than 10 goals and no other player scored more like 2-3 goals) he was also the primary creator.CR or Lewandowski were never involved in playmaking like Leo.

-As others have said,this time span was not even Leo?s prime.In no sport and in no era is it fair to count the twilight years of a player against him.That said,he is still great at this age.

Please tell me whether any guy in history has been better at 33-34 years old during a whole season.

yeah hes doing well for a 33 year old. very well indeed. best in the world? dont make me laugh :lol: pre and post injury lewa has been miles better

Not to mention he likes to twerk for CR7 but CR7 did absolutely fuck all in his physical prime in the CL or LL between 08 and 12 other than being Barca's punching bag.

But then again, this is the same lad who claimed Messi's prime began in 2013 or 2014 just so he could continue his drivel.

:lol:

LMAO so you get to decide when messis prime is and ronaldos too? looool wow big L for you tonight :lol:

Not to mention he likes to twerk for CR7 but CR7 did absolutely fuck all in his physical prime in the CL or LL between 08 and 12 other than being Barca's punching bag.

But then again, this is the same lad who claimed Messi's prime began in 2013 or 2014 just so he could continue his drivel.

:lol:

get you facts straight. i said 2011-2015, but was convinced it began in 2009. another L for u tonight :lol:
 

KingLeo10

Senior Member
LMAO so you get to decide when messis prime is and ronaldos too? looool wow big L for you tonight :lol:

No...but when they start winning Ballon D'Or is where everyone in the world EXCEPT you starts the count of their prime.

CR7's began in 07-08

Messi's in 08-09

:lol:
 

BarcaOG

Banned
No...but when they start winning Ballon D'Or is where everyone in the world EXCEPT you starts the count of their prime.

CR7's began in 07-08

Messi's in 08-09

:lol:

another hot L for you then

because that means Messi is SO BAD that POST-PRIME CR won more CLs in 5 years than messi did in 10 LMAO

No...but when they start winning Ballon D'Or is where everyone in the world EXCEPT you starts the count of their prime.

CR7's began in 07-08

Messi's in 08-09

:lol:

see post above so you can get your facts straight. L number 4 tonight dude, keep it coming :lol:
 

bismp

Well-known member
Messi?s prime by great players? standards was 2009 to 2019

By GOAT standards it was 2010 to 2015,that was his peak.

I haven?t followed CR?s career so closely but I guess that his prime was between 2008 and 2018,while his peak was between 2011 and 2017.

But all this is subjective and as we can see it is highly dependent by the overall team quality.


However,you keep hailing CR(in Barcaforum mind you :lol: ) as the ultimate clutch player,but let?s see how he fared in big tournaments and competitions,when he did not have Modric,Kroos and the other guys with him:

Euro 2008: 1 goal

WC 2010: 1 goal

Euro 2012: 3 goals

WC 2014: 1 goal

Euro 2016(his GOAT tournament :lol:) : 3 goals

WC 2018: 4 goals(that was good)

What about El Clasico?You seem to troll Messi on every given moment about his failure.

CR?s Clasico record: 30 games.18 goals(0,6G/M,closely similar to Leo?s CL KO ratio after 2016...Curious) and an astonishing number of 8 wins.

Also,let?s freshen your memory,in his 9 years in Madrid he won only 2 La Ligas.Real Madrid won 2 La Ligas the 3 years before his arrival and at least 1 more the 3 years after his departure.Talking about greatness...

Also,an added point,during his 30 games vs Barca,CR gave...1 assist :lol: :crbust:
 

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