Lionel Messi - v7

KingLeo10

Senior Member
Maybe he’s got that voodoo black magic from Zidane this season. Certainly seems that way atm, not a clue how we are top of La Liga and CL group lol

We're on pace for an 80 point season. For most of the past decade that'd have been 10 points behind 2nd place, lol. EV's just lucky the competition from RM and AM is non-existent.

Same with CL, Inter should have beat or drawn us at Camp Nou. But they missed like 2 sitters 1st half and Messi went Messi 2nd half.
 

Tackle

Senior Member
winning 2020 copa america sound more possible than winning ucl this season

Don't think a devalued Copa America title, especially in the same year as the EUROs would be much of a boost. There are going to have been 4 Copa America tournaments played in the last 6 years. Normally it should be 4 every 16 years. Turning into a bit of a joke at this point.

To be honest he can still win a few more without any major trophies if he has some more 50+ goal seasons, a good individual CL campaign and all the other major tournament winners don't have any clear argument.

Ronaldo was the only one viable enough to compete with Leo head-to-head for a while. Now that he's finished the path is pretty much clear for Messi to win more Ballon D'ors while having to be less of an alien. There is no other player that can win without standing out as the difference maker for a CL/NT trophy winning team.
 

devo901

New member
Ernesto seems to be a very lucky man.

Regarding the phenomenon of luck: one Golfer once said... "The harder I work, the luckier I get! ;-D

Well, we all know "simultanious appeararences, presuppose not a dependency"

and Nitzsche once said "All really Great (famous people), were great actors as all hard workers!"
 
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Ripsta

New member
Bring on Monday, Messi's a lucky boy if he gets this one, because as much as he deserves it, in this current climate it's always wrongly awarded to a player of the CL winning team, thanks to Ronaldo.

Now if the club sack that cunt Valverde before January Messi can take the team to another treble and win his 7th and end the GOAT debate once an for all.
 

Ritchie

New member
Maybe it's a sympathy award if he wins it because it's his last chance of winning it really. He's not going to do much else for this awful Barca shambles. His last hope of a CL went at Anfield. Got maybe one more shot of a Copa next year but looked liek Anfield and the Brazil Copa game this year cost him the Ballon D'or to VVD.

Ironically had Holland beat Penaldo's Portugal to win Nation's League VVD would have won it for sure.

It might finish 6-5 if Messi wins it this year, but I think Penaldo could get the sympathy vote next year if Juve win CL or Portugal win Euros again. Both could feasibly happen. It'd have to be a trophy award because he's nowhere near the best player anymore. Whatever you say about Messi he was the world's best player again this year. Problem is it's become an award for trophies.
 

Givenchy

Senior Member
sympathy? if we are talking sympathy votes, Messi should get his 7th next year after that farce of him finishing 5th!

Ronaldo shouldn't even be in the top 5

fwiw i still think VVD will win it this year, bookies odds have changed so might be a good time to put money on him
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
sympathy? if we are talking sympathy votes, Messi should get his 7th next year after that farce of him finishing 5th!

Ronaldo shouldn't even be in the top 5

fwiw i still think VVD will win it this year, bookies odds have changed so might be a good time to put money on him

Messi has already won. Why would you bet on VVD? France Football will release their cover and interview after the event next Monday which is why the winner's leaked already. That's not something that's done in 24 hours.

Modric winning it was leaked a week before last year too as France Football were in Madrid for his photoshoot.
 

Tackle

Senior Member
sympathy? if we are talking sympathy votes, Messi should get his 7th next year after that farce of him finishing 5th!

Ronaldo shouldn't even be in the top 5

fwiw i still think VVD will win it this year, bookies odds have changed so might be a good time to put money on him

Ronaldo has certainly had his fair share or questionable individual award winnings, but if we are going by this season's criteria he should have won last year.

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Modric Ballon D'or was a farce last season, similar to how a Van Dijk win would have been this season.
 

CatalinR10

Senior Member
What about assists - key passes - dribblings or other stuff ? Messi’s last season was legendary as he almost carried a bunch of old plebs to a treble. As impressive or good was cr last year , his performance doesn’t touch Messi’s, even if they have similar scoring stats.
 

Aryagorn

Improvin' Perfection!!
Ronaldo has certainly had his fair share or questionable individual award winnings, but if we are going by this season's criteria he should have won last year.

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Modric Ballon D'or was a farce last season, similar to how a Van Dijk win would have been this season.

To his credit, Modric was one of the most important players of the club that won CL & the country their first WC final ever

Having that said, no force in the world would have stopped CR7 from winning it had he stayed at Madrid!

It also begs to question the credibility of all those golden balls he stacked up when at Madrid, including/especially the one that he was given when he had won absolutely nothing with the club/country while getting the deadline extended!


If God forbid, van Dijk wins, it would also beg to question the football governing body's sincerity in their cry against racism; when more deserving Liverpool player Mane who even helped his country get to African Cup of Nations final is not even in the consideration!
 

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