Lionel Messi - v7

Birdy

Senior Member
Barca fans shouldn't be happy to see that.

LaLiga administration, not the clubs themselves.

But in the long run, one thing is for sure: Either LaLiga changes its ways, or the best will be in the Superleague and the minor clubs will vanish from the football map.

It's the minor clubs who should be protesting right now and putting pressure on LaLiga
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
Barca isn't fucked, there is a generation of young talents coming through and if the finances are under control over the next couple years Barca will be in for top players like usual. Madrid are going through their rebuilding phase and can still attract Mbappe. Barca will always attract the world's best superstars.

It's a rebuilding process...

Let's see how our finances look first. We might still be recovering from the ruins the last board left us in for the next 2-3 years to come.

Also no guarantee any of these youngsters pan out, although hope at least a couple of them do.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
I would also say that these young players will be under an incredible amount of pressure. Even without Messi we're expected to win and do well. Maybe not win the league, but at the bare minimum end top four and play well.

They don't have many established great players around them to cover for them like our previous young superstars did, including Messi.

Our established players are either shit(Roberto), old(Busquets) or struggling(Griezmann) themselves.
 

stb_1

Senior Member
MAsterful move by Laporta !!

Tebas tried to essentially threaten Barca (less RM who are in no need to renew, sign players atm): Either you ditch the Superleague for ever OR you can't have Messi.

Laporta replies with this, making clear that he will never abandon the Superleague (and rightfully so) for the good of the club.
But at the same time, he is firing back at Tebas:
EITHER you cave in and accept exceptions to the wage cup to register MEssi (which practically means that the wage cup is UDERMINED in general, as exception once means a permanent state of exception)
OR Messi leaves and the whole world puts the blame on LaLiga and comes down to history like that.

I must say, it's a mastermind move.
It's sad if Messi leaves the club like that, but from a political pov LaLiga will destroy its reputation irreparably after such an event

In no circumstance is losing the goat footballer for a hypothetical league which may never happen a master plan..
 

Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
LaLiga administration, not the clubs themselves.

But in the long run, one thing is for sure: Either LaLiga changes its ways, or the best will be in the Superleague and the minor clubs will vanish from the football map.

It's the minor clubs who should be protesting right now and putting pressure on LaLiga

La Liga is the collective face of all Spanish Primera and Segunda clubs, if they take a hit in whichever way the clubs will feel it.

The salary cap is a good thing that clubs signed onto, it is just that it is crippling the clubs, especially us when we are facing the impact of COVID and when Tebas refused to budge (as he did before).
 

frostdude1

Member
Is this a powerplay?

Spanish football writer Andy West

Stop writing the obituaries, shelve those plans for a grand farewell... as dramatic as it seems, Barca's announcement does not definitely mean Messi is leaving. Not yet, anyway.

In fact, rather than being a final and definitive statement it is actually a very risky tactical move in the club's powerplay with La Liga, whose salary cap regulations are preventing Messi and Barca from signing the new contract the club claim they have both agreed.

The backdrop is Barca's crippling financial situation and their connected ongoing desire to form a European Super League, which club president Joan Laporta has continued to pursue along with his Real Madrid counterpart Florentino Perez.

Crucially, La Liga has just announced a major new deal with investment fund CVC, which would immediately hand Barca about ?200m - enough to re-sign Messi. To receive that, however, the club would have to sign a long-term commitment to La Liga, renouncing the idea of a Super League.

And minutes after Barca's statement, Real Madrid released their own, saying the CVC deal was done "without the involvement or knowledge" of the club and saying they cannot support the venture.

Laporta is saying to La Liga president Javier Tebas: 'Well, let's see what your new investment fund partner makes of a league without Messi. Your move.'

What that move will be... who knows? But this multi-billion-dollar game of chess is not over. Laporta has called 'check'. But it's not necessarily 'checkmate'.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
La Liga is the collective face of all Spanish Primera and Segunda clubs, if they take a hit in whichever way the clubs will feel it.

The salary cap is a good thing that clubs signed onto, it is just that it is crippling the clubs, especially us when we are facing the impact of COVID and when Tebas refused to budge (as he did before).

Your first line should be directed to Tebas, not Laporta.
Laporta had no other choice TBH

About the salary cup, it's a good thing in certain circumstances which are not met now.
Plus, when there is no such thing in the whole of Europe, it's not a good thing as the gap between LaLiga and other leagues is widening

In no circumstance is losing the goat footballer for a hypothetical league which may never happen a master plan..

Read again...
Laporta's had no choice.
Losing him is inevitable if Tebas does not lift the salary cup.
Laporta is making sure that if it happens the blame is on Tebas, that's the plan

Laporta is saying to La Liga president Javier Tebas: 'Well, let's see what your new investment fund partner makes of a league without Messi. Your move.'

What that move will be... who knows? But this multi-billion-dollar game of chess is not over. Laporta has called 'check'. But it's not necessarily 'checkmate'.

That's exactly what's happening
 
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Luftstalag14

Culé de Celestial Empire
I don't buy the powerplay theory because

(1) The club's announcement allegedly caught Messi by surprise
(2) Messi reportedly started contacting PSG
 

Birdy

Senior Member
I don't buy the powerplay theory because

(1) The club's announcement allegedly caught Messi by surprise
(2) Messi reportedly started contacting PSG

It's not the announcement that caught him by surprise, it's what Laporta told him and his father during the meeting.

But Messi is not consciously part of the powerplay: the agents are Laporta on the one hand, and Tebas on the other.
Even though Messi's actions affect the outcome, and 2 is a great thing to put more pressure on Tebas
 

Rassvet

Well-known member
PSG believe the cost of signing Lionel Messi will be compensated and exceeded by the commercial income it generates, both for the club and for the improvement of the national rights of Ligue 1.

(@TheAthleticUK)
 

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