Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi V2

Temptation

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:lol: You always post this but 14-15 was the season he was at his physically sharpest. Combination of the narrow WC loss and CR7 winning CL the season before had him very, very motivated.

It's also his best season ever in terms of trophies + individual stats.

He had 58 goals and 29 assists and a treble.

There's basically no difference between his level in 10/11 and 14/15.

I don't judge individuals on trophies.


14/15 had peak Suarez and Neymar who are much better than 10/11 partners Villa and Pedro.


Ofcourse, the 14/15 team would win a lot.



Around 2011, he had more pace, natural acceleration and was tougher to stop. More of a one man machine. He was more scary in a way. Plus he was better at poaching and movement in the box.


Later on he mastered the edge of the box range shots and FKs. But in 2011, he had more variety with the low driven shot(United CL final 2011), better solo goals, an array of chip finishes with left and right which were delightful and some fox in the box goals and cute finishes.


In terms of individual stats he had the 73(?) goal season.


Plus destroying United automatically has a better memory in my estimation. :mou:
 

Temptation

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Is your country the only one in the west? Do some research before you try to be a smart ass. I doubt Croatia is @the edge of so call "progress".


This is the rare exception and not the norm. Anyone who lives in the west will tell you that. No one's saying the West is absolutely perfect and has no room for improvement.

Meanwhile oppressing women is very much the norm in the Middle East and they are proud of it. Nothing confidential about that so don't throw the "you haven't been to Saudi" card.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Is your country the only one in the west? Do some research before you try to be a smart ass. I doubt Croatia is @the edge of so call "progress".


Do you live in Europe or you just read religious/eastern/anti west propaganda from that part of the world?
Where they create a fuss out of 1 in a million cases.

The same as how Russian propaganda were making videos how Europe is freezing, how they eat rats in UK and lately how we listen Hitler's speeches all over Europe in 2023, because we are all anti-religious drugged nazi zombies, fucking lol.

** Btw, this nazi thing is a new anti-western thing.
First it was only LGBT, gays, kids learning about gay sex and forcing to change genders.
But lately, fed by Russian bullshit, suddenly not only Ukraine are evil nazis, but the whole west are evil nazis.

10 days ago, in fights between Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia) and AEK Athens (Greee), hundreds of fans were fighting outside of a stadium, one day before the match, and one Greek fan was killed.
Suddenly, you can already read in lost of Greek media (and Greeks are orthodox religion, somewhat close to Russia) how evil nazis from Croatia killed a poor guy.

My point is, in these anti-west propaganda circles, the new era of shit is how we are all nazis on the West.
Oh wait, hold on a second while I clean my Hitler's picture in my living room, which stands right above child anal gay sex.
Since, our homes are filled with Hitler and gay sex pics.
I mean, that's who we are on West.
We are all evil gays, we take heroin 3 times a day and then, with other nazis, we go all around the world and kill poor, good religious people.
 
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Don Juan Laporta Estruch

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This is the rare exception and not the norm. Anyone who lives in the west will tell you that. No one's saying the West is absolutely perfect and has no room for improvement.

Meanwhile oppressing women is very much the norm in the Middle East and they are proud of it. Nothing confidential about that so don't throw the "you haven't been to Saudi" card.
Yes, they are obviously exaggerating to prove their point. But sex education in schools in Northern Europe is far more prevalent than you are making out.

They are teaching 9 year olds about how watching porn and masturbation is okay. As well as teaching them about anal sex and how they should become a transvestite if they feel like it. AT 9 YEARS OF AGE.

It's absolutely HORRIFIC.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
Yes, they are obviously exaggerating to prove their point. But sex education in schools in Northern Europe is far more prevalent than you are making out.

They are teaching 9 year olds about how watching porn and masturbation is okay. As well as teaching them about anal sex and how they should become a transvestite if they feel like it. AT 9 YEARS OF AGE.

It's absolutely HORRIFIC.

Fucking lol.
And watching porn and masturbation is bad?

A wild guess, which religion are you?
I guess you are against premarital sex and abortion also?
That usually goes together.

++ Messigician, an orthodox, anti-western guy, pro-Russia, anti-LGBT now suddenly siding with Muslims in the hate towards the West.
A textbook example of bipolar world and ideas.
 

Temptation

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Yes, they are obviously exaggerating to prove their point. But sex education in schools in Northern Europe is far more prevalent than you are making out.

They are teaching 9 year olds about how watching porn and masturbation is okay. As well as teaching them about anal sex and how they should become a transvestite if they feel like it. AT 9 YEARS OF AGE.

It's absolutely HORRIFIC.

What's wrong with something as fundamentally important as Sex Education?


What teachings do you want in schools? Masturbation is a sin and screw safe sex? :lol:
 

Judoman

Senior Member
Do you live in Europe or you just read religious/eastern/anti west propaganda from that part of the world?
Where they create a fuss out of 1 in a million cases.

The same as how Russian propaganda were making videos how Europe is freezing, how they eat rats in UK and lately how we listen Hitler's speeches all over Europe in 2023, because we are all anti-religious drugged nazi zombies, fucking lol.

** Btw, this nazi thing is a new anti-western thing.
First it was only LGBT, gays, kids learning about gay sex and forcing to change genders.
But lately, fed by Russian bullshit, suddenly not only Ukraine are evil nazis, but the whole west are evil nazis.

10 days ago, in fights between Dinamo Zagreb (Croatia) and AEK Athens (Greee), hundreds of fans were fighting outside of a stadium, one day before the match, and one Greek fan was killed.
Suddenly, you can already read in lost of Greek media (and Greeks are orthodox religion, somewhat close to Russia) how evil nazis from Croatia killed a poor guy.

My point is, in these anti-west propaganda circles, the new era of shit is how we are all nazis on the West.
Oh wait, hold on a second while I clean my Hitler's picture in my living room, which stands right above child anal gay sex.
Since, our homes are filled with Hitler and gay sex pics.
I mean, that's who we are on West.
We are all evil gays, we take heroin 3 times a day and then, with other nazis, we go all around the world and kill poor, good religious people.
Of course i live in Europe, you just want to brush this off as some sort of irrelevant thing or even as some sort of propaganda. As usual you are trying to sound smarter than you actually are.

It is a fact that gender theory is taught in schools and universities. Maybe not in whole west, maybe not in Croatia, but it is getting there sooner or latter. Drag shows are just one of things that don't belong to schools or kinder gardens.
It is a fact that in some countries non-adults (kids) can change their sex via irreversible treatments and they do. This issue is also connected to women sports, because you have teenagers turned "women" who destroy competition after their procedure or even just declaring themselves as "women".

This is not an irrelevant issue just because it does not exists (for now) in your tiny little world. It is one of many problems that exists in the west, including human rights issues.

Commenting on other cultures from the place of arrogance is just stupid.
 

ajnotkeith

Senior Member
If you guys want to go live under the Shariah... Go ahead. Nobody's stopping you... You can go to Afghanistan or Iran or somewhere they practise it to the letter.

Even Saudi Arabia knows how fucked up it is themselves because they are rewriting their laws to remove Islamic interpretations and add Westernised laws.
 

Temptation

Well-known member
If you guys want to go live under the Shariah... Go ahead. Nobody's stopping you... You can go to Afghanistan or Iran or somewhere they practise it to the letter.

Even Saudi Arabia knows how fucked up it is themselves because they are rewriting their laws to remove Islamic interpretations and add Westernised laws.

Shush. Let them believe the entire world is wrong and only they are correct.
 

Don Juan Laporta Estruch

Well-known member
Shush. Let them believe the entire world is wrong and only they are correct.
You shouldn't complain of others over exaggerating and then doing the same.

There is a middle ground. And that middle ground says that the East is too strict and the West is too liberal.
And that BOTH of those stances are fucked up.

Unfortunately, one side seems to keep insisting it has moral superiority over the other. And insisting the other side take a deep hard look at itself, whilst not realising that they need to do the same.
 

Saladin

Active member
You made a new friend.
I don't mind new friends, even if we don't see eye to eye. There's good in every being
No way you're ok with what he posted about Muslims
Of course not, but I am not an authority in any shape or form - I don't expect same level of decency in an online forum as people tend to show 'out about in society', but when I stumble upon something that seems wrong, whether it be towards muslims, christians, atheists or in general, I tend to adress it.
He is obviously biased and wrong, but I have zero time to adress every post I disagree with.
And yours were never that off, still within the spectrum of reasonable debate/discourse.
 

Porque

Senior Member
CONMEBOL has invited Messi's Inter Miami to participate in the Copa Libertadores. Teams from the MLS and Liga MX do not participate, but the President of CONMEBOL wanted to invite Inter Miami.

— @TyCSports

Fake news. Al Hilal have been invited instead.
 

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