Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

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Barcilliant

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Just don't tell me this bullshit about how much Messi has done for Barcelona.

Hell, we paid him crazy money and ended up in a financial mess.

His salary worked like a domino effect - you have to raise for everyone. By the way, the former financial director of Barcelona spoke about this.

Agree with this. We bankrupted ourselves to please his ego and his father. We should have gotten rid of him in 2017. That terrorist Barto was such a fucking beta. He let the amigos run the club into the ground and helped pour fuel on the fire. If he had any backbone like Perez he would have gotten rid of these turds and not have given them obscene contracts.
LVG has cancer. What an absolute dick response by Messi to act like that. Total fucking wanker. Some times you take the high road and ignore stuff like that. I'm not even a fan of LVG but he deserves respect.
Messi is the greatest player this club has had but he's a tool.
 

Barcilliant

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What the fuck were FIFA thinking appointing Lahoz as ref? This idiot thinks he should share equal limelight with the players and always creates dramas where there aren't any. Terrible fucking ref and drama queen.
 

iniestaGOAT

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Agree with this. We bankrupted ourselves to please his ego and his father. We should have gotten rid of him in 2017. That terrorist Barto was such a fucking beta. He let the amigos run the club into the ground and helped pour fuel on the fire. If he had any backbone like Perez he would have gotten rid of these turds and not have given them obscene contracts.
LVG has cancer. What an absolute dick response by Messi to act like that. Total fucking wanker. Some times you take the high road and ignore stuff like that. I'm not even a fan of LVG but he deserves respect.
Messi is the greatest player this club has had but he's a tool.

You must be high. Team like Argentina needs to use any small irrelevant thing to motivate themselves.

They are not the best. They should never have made it this far. But it worked. So they need to keep doing what they are doing and get it done.
 

JohnN

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Having cancer or anything else does not make you eligible to spout shit against others. Being an old grandpa, does not justify being disrespectful or gain you respect. Why did Holland players had this abysmal attitude during penalties? Who told them to do that? Would they have done it without the coaches approval?
In the pitch the two sides will do anything to win, but should expect responses of equal measure.
 

M3ls

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Agree with this. We bankrupted ourselves to please his ego and his father. We should have gotten rid of him in 2017. That terrorist Barto was such a fucking beta. He let the amigos run the club into the ground and helped pour fuel on the fire. If he had any backbone like Perez he would have gotten rid of these turds and not have given them obscene contracts.
LVG has cancer. What an absolute dick response by Messi to act like that. Total fucking wanker. Some times you take the high road and ignore stuff like that. I'm not even a fan of LVG but he deserves respect.
Messi is the greatest player this club has had but he's a tool.

Absolutely right.
Perez would have thrown him out the door. And that would be the right decision.

It's just that I can't stand the talk of Messi's defenders when they start talking about how much he's done for the club.

Look, you idiots, we paid a cosmic salary, just unbelievable, and let him walk on the field and not do the work without the ball that every football player has to do.

Cruyff said: The average player spends 3 minutes with the ball, so what really matters is what he does in the other 87 minutes.
 

JohnN

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Absolutely right.
Perez would have thrown him out the door. And that would be the right decision.

It's just that I can't stand the talk of Messi's defenders when they start talking about how much he's done for the club.

Look, you idiots, we paid a cosmic salary, just unbelievable, and let him walk on the field and not do the work without the ball that every football player has to do.

Cruyff said: The average player spends 3 minutes with the ball, so what really matters is what he does in the other 87 minutes.

He, Xavi and Iniesta along with pep, elevated our status as a club to the "best ever". The fans we accumulated and the following we gathered cannot be quantified. Barca were not an average club but, were never in the consistently top clubs bracket before.
If the player's demands are not sustainable you don't keep him, naturally, but don't diminish the contribution, as it is the best thing that happened to Barca.
 

M3ls

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He, Xavi and Iniesta along with pep, elevated our status as a club to the "best ever". The fans we accumulated and the following we gathered cannot be quantified. Barca were not an average club but, were never in the consistently top clubs bracket before.
If the player's demands are not sustainable you don't keep him, naturally, but don't diminish the contribution, as it is the best thing that happened to Barca.

I have no complaints about Xavi and Iniesta.

But Messi began to allow himself to be lazy in work without the ball back in 12.

I'm 100% sure that Pep left because of Leo - he realized that it's not possible to maintain his style of play when one of your players simply does not work without the ball.
Pressing is one of the key elements in a dominant style of play. When one player falls out of the pressure, absolutely everything collapses.

All this Pep talk about the four-year cycle was a bluff. How many years has he been with the City? I also do not believe in this story with Rossel who wanted to squeeze out Pep.

Pep left because of Messi. In the dressing room, the coach should be in charge - Messi has received too much power.
 

JohnN

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I have no complaints about Xavi and Iniesta.

But Messi began to allow himself to be lazy in work without the ball back in 12.

I'm 100% sure that Pep left because of Leo - he realized that it's not possible to maintain his style of play when one of your players simply does not work without the ball.
Pressing is one of the key elements in a dominant style of play. When one player falls out of the pressure, absolutely everything collapses.

All this Pep talk about the four-year cycle was a bluff. How many years has he been with the City? I also do not believe in this story with Rossel who wanted to squeeze out Pep.

Pep left because of Messi. In the dressing room, the coach should be in charge - Messi has received too much power.

I don't know why he left and wont speculate on it.
Messi was not the same player 10 years ago. He can't press now and maintain gas in the tank for when he has the ball.
But Argentina still pull of the highest aggressive counter pressing when first losing the ball even with him on the lineup. They just employee a tireless runner like de Paul to cover. It's not rocket science and it works.
I imagine it would also work better with a 25 yo Messi contributing a little more. Not like he didn't try this game, he did a lot by his standards.
You lose and Gain something with every player you use.
 

Horatio

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I don't know why he left and wont speculate on it.
Messi was not the same player 10 years ago. He can't press now and maintain gas in the tank for when he has the ball.
But Argentina still pull of the highest aggressive counter pressing when first losing the ball even with him on the lineup. They just employee a tireless runner like de Paul to cover. It's not rocket science and it works.
I imagine it would also work better with a 25 yo Messi contributing a little more. Not like he didn't try this game, he did a lot by his standards.
You lose and Gain something with every player you use.

lol...what you are saying is what Van Gaal analyzed and you ironically deemed "shit being spouted"
 

Barcilliant

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I have no complaints about Xavi and Iniesta.

But Messi began to allow himself to be lazy in work without the ball back in 12.

I'm 100% sure that Pep left because of Leo - he realized that it's not possible to maintain his style of play when one of your players simply does not work without the ball.
Pressing is one of the key elements in a dominant style of play. When one player falls out of the pressure, absolutely everything collapses.

All this Pep talk about the four-year cycle was a bluff. How many years has he been with the City? I also do not believe in this story with Rossel who wanted to squeeze out Pep.

Pep left because of Messi. In the dressing room, the coach should be in charge - Messi has received too much power.

It's pretty obvious Messi's ego was out of control. Lucho clashed with him and all the other managers were cucks. Also his disappearing act in cl became more annoying as time went on. Watching him today he ran alot more than during our cl humiliations.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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Having cancer or anything else does not make you eligible to spout shit against others. Being an old grandpa, does not justify being disrespectful or gain you respect. Why did Holland players had this abysmal attitude during penalties? Who told them to do that? Would they have done it without the coaches approval?
In the pitch the two sides will do anything to win, but should expect responses of equal measure.

True true. Sounds like problem from top to bottom.
 
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