Lionel "The Greatest of All Time" Messi

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technically & skills wise & performance all year long .... messi is the best since 2008till now

he should've at least won 9

i would give the 2013 to ribery 2020 to lewa & 2016 to suarez or neymar


unfortunately because his ability it change from an award for the best individual to the best player in a team winning the cl

cr7 had and still huge pr to support him despite the fact he isn't a top 5 player since 2012
 

iniestaGOAT

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Nothing to see here folks. It was a pretty meh year in terms of individual performances. I mean, come on, Chelsea won CL, and Italy won Euro, and the one player who features in both is fucking Jorginho :lol:. You can blow all the smoke you can up his ass until your head explodes, you still can't make Jorginho a Ballon d'Or winner because it's just embarrassing. Even putting him in the top 3 is borderline hilarious.

The best players in the world atm are probably Lewandowski, Salah, Mbappe, and Van Dijk. But Lewa was unlucky because he got injured in CL at the worst time, and Liverpool and Salah had an off-year. France didn't cover themselves in glory either at the Euro and Mbappe missed the key penalty vs Switzerland, so that's him out. On top of that, his Qatari team got their pants pulled by Burak Ilmaz and were the joke of France.

It was meant to be for Messi. He had a good story to sell with his Copa America win. You don't have to be the best to win it. In years when there isn't a clear winner, the biggest name with the best story usually wins. This was that year.

I agree, Jorginho top 3 is shambolic. He is not the best player in his club nor in his national team. Its a joke how much hype this fool is getting.

I wouldnt want barca to buy this player for 20m.
 

Rory

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2023 Ballon d'or after taking Argentina to world cup glory and returning to barca and winning the treble.
 

malvolio

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technically & skills wise & performance all year long .... messi is the best since 2008till now

he should've at least won 9

i would give the 2013 to ribery 2020 to lewa & 2016 to suarez or neymar


unfortunately because his ability it change from an award for the best individual to the best player in a team winning the cl

cr7 had and still huge pr to support him despite the fact he isn't a top 5 player since 2012

This basically. Messi should be on 9 or 10 if we're talking individual ability and performances. That 2018 one that went to Modric, what a joke.
 

jamrock

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technically & skills wise & performance all year long .... messi is the best since 2008till now

he should've at least won 9

i would give the 2013 to ribery 2020 to lewa & 2016 to suarez or neymar


unfortunately because his ability it change from an award for the best individual to the best player in a team winning the cl

cr7 had and still huge pr to support him despite the fact he isn't a top 5 player since 2012

Agreed.
 

Windhook

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True. As I said in Cristiano's thread, France Football and FIFA, while the award was combined, set the CL, Euro, WC trophy rule to prevent Messi from receiving the award every year. Leo was fantastic and GOAT form for 6-7 years in a row starting in 2009.
 

bismp

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People crying about Lewa’s stats were DEAD SILENT in 2016,2017,2018 when Leo was the G/A leader. Nobody complained that Leo came 5th in 2018.

People crying about Leo’s mediocre last few months were dead silent when Modric was shit in the beginning of 2018/19 season.

People crying over the supposed robbery of Sneijder in 2010 or Van Djik in 2019, years when Messi was individually above everyone else and was scoring insane goals every week, now cry that Lewa was individually better.

People hailing Modric for ‘leading’ his team to the WC final, did not bat an eye when Messi received less than half the CR votes’ in 2014.

People hailing CR in 2016 for scoring a grand total of 6 goals in 11 knock-out games in CL and the Euro, including only 1 goal in the 7 semifinals/finals games, were the same people who gave him more double the amount of votes than the second(Messi) and are the same people who cry that Leo was carried in the Copa America.

Keep moving the goal posts ;)
 

FinBarcelonafan

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People crying about Lewa?s stats were DEAD SILENT in 2016,2017,2018 when Leo was the G/A leader. Nobody complained that Leo came 5th in 2018.

People crying about Leo?s mediocre last few months were dead silent when Modric was shit in the beginning of 2018/19 season.

People crying over the supposed robbery of Sneijder in 2010 or Van Djik in 2019, years when Messi was individually above everyone else and was scoring insane goals every week, now cry that Lewa was individually better.

People hailing Modric for ?leading? his team to the WC final, did not bat an eye when Messi received less than half the CR votes? in 2014.

People hailing CR in 2016 for scoring a grand total of 6 goals in 11 knock-out games in CL and the Euro, including only 1 goal in the 7 semifinals/finals games, were the same people who gave him more double the amount of votes than the second(Messi) and are the same people who cry that Leo was carried in the Copa America.

Keep moving the goal posts ;)

This. Shows people's double standards.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

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True. As I said in Cristiano's thread, France Football and FIFA, while the award was combined, set the CL, Euro, WC trophy rule to prevent Messi from receiving the award every year. Leo was fantastic and GOAT form for 6-7 years in a row starting in 2009.

Messi had GOAT form till 2015 except 13-14 :p
 

Rassvet

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True. As I said in Cristiano's thread, France Football and FIFA, while the award was combined, set the CL, Euro, WC trophy rule to prevent Messi from receiving the award every year. Leo was fantastic and GOAT form for 6-7 years in a row starting in 2009.

That’s nonsense lol. Messi won it in 2010 and 2012 without winning any of those trophies while Ronaldo won it in 2013 while winning nothing. The FIFA and France Football merging actually helped Messi and Ronaldo as they lost the journalist vote in 2010 and 2013 but still won the award thanks to captain and coaches voting.

Cannavaro winning in 2006 or Ronaldo in 2002 also shows that the huge emphasis on trophies was not some conspiracy that started in 2009 to hurt Messi.
 

Fati_Future_BallonDor

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That’s nonsense lol. Messi won it in 2010 and 2012 without winning any of those trophies while Ronaldo won it in 2013 while winning nothing. The FIFA and France Football merging actually helped Messi and Ronaldo as they lost the journalist vote in 2010 and 2013 but still won the award thanks to captain and coaches voting.

Cannavaro winning in 2006 or Ronaldo in 2002 also shows that the huge emphasis on trophies was not some conspiracy that started in 2009 to hurt Messi.

#Factsvet
 

Messigician

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That?s nonsense lol. Messi won it in 2010 and 2012 without winning any of those trophies while Ronaldo won it in 2013 while winning nothing. The FIFA and France Football merging actually helped Messi and Ronaldo as they lost the journalist vote in 2010 and 2013 but still won the award thanks to captain and coaches voting.

Cannavaro winning in 2006 or Ronaldo in 2002 also shows that the huge emphasis on trophies was not some conspiracy that started in 2009 to hurt Messi.

True
 
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