Luis Enrique

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Flavia

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Even if it was true, which I personally think it is not, a coach who takes zero responsibility for a loss and even explicitly blames the players doesn't get bonus points in my book.

He took responsability for the defeat, though. He was pretty straightforward after the game:
"When there is a defeat I don't tend to value individual things, responsability in the defeat is mainly mine as coach, I am responsible. We'll analize what we did bad and we'll try so it doesn't happen again."
 

Stric

New member
He took responsability for the defeat, though. He was pretty straightforward after the game:
"When there is a defeat I don't tend to value individual things, responsability in the defeat is mainly mine as coach, I am responsible. We'll analize what we did bad and we'll try so it doesn't happen again."

My bad, then. I only saw the part about him saying individual errors lead to the defeat.

Although, now when I read both statements, it's still seems to me that he's accepting responsibility more because he's in charge and the leader, not necessarily because he feels he made the wrong decisions which lead to the defeat. Which is definitely better than what I thought and said first, don't get me wrong, but it's still worrisome.
 

Kerrybai

New member
My bad, then. I only saw the part about him saying individual errors lead to the defeat.

Although, now when I read both statements, it's still seems to me that he's accepting responsibility more because he's in charge and the leader, not necessarily because he feels he made the wrong decisions which lead to the defeat. Which is definitely better than what I thought and said first, don't get me wrong, but it's still worrisome.

But didn't make decisions that lead to the defeat, the defeat was a result of 2 erroes, first by Masch defending Luiz and then Ter Stegen, unless of course you blame him for his personnel choices.
 

Behrox

Vice President of FC Barcelona
But didn't make decisions that lead to the defeat, the defeat was a result of 2 erroes, first by Masch defending Luiz and then Ter Stegen, unless of course you blame him for his personnel choices.

The Masch and MAtS playing shouldn't have happened in the first place. Throwing MAtS to the wolves with only 1 game against APOEL and Masch against Cavani and co. Lucho went Loco right there
 

BerkeleyBernie

Senior Member
But didn't make decisions that lead to the defeat, the defeat was a result of 2 erroes, first by Masch defending Luiz and then Ter Stegen, unless of course you blame him for his personnel choices.

The errors were by Alba and Alves, turnovers which were totally unnecessary and avoidable, which led to the set pieces (and the goals). The set piece marking was secondary (and even with better marking, PSG still might have scored; the errors were to allow them set pieces in the first place). I think Lucho, like me, sees the judgement of Alves and Alba as the primary failure there (as well as others in the game who played sloppily). Sometimes tactics play a part in poor performances by players, by forcing them into battles where they are at a disadvantage. While you might argue with Lucho's tactics, I don't see them being at fault for player performances versus PSG.
 

barcanuck

New member
Good analysis guys. 54 balls lost were annoying and hopefully Lucho has his video team checking that out. Just play one of Alves or Alba and stick Mathieu at LB or Masche at RB to have balance. Rotate Masche and Busi in mid instead of guaranteeing Busi the start all the time!

Simple changes bar the Masche at RB but he is great at adapting.
 

Stric

New member
But didn't make decisions that lead to the defeat, the defeat was a result of 2 erroes, first by Masch defending Luiz and then Ter Stegen, unless of course you blame him for his personnel choices.

Exactly. Starting Ter Stegen in a CL game and Masch as a CB is the reason why errors happen.
 
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Flavia

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@euleri · 12 min
Compare Barca's position today v Rayo (black) to v PSG (white). CMFs closer together. Busi shaded R to connect w Xavi

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Lucho changed his tactics, good to see that.
 
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Flavia

Guest
In short, Munir was sacrificed.
Works now but where do you fit Suarez

That's because Xavi played. With Suarez things should go back to what they were before, but it's good to see Lucho is not stubborn or averse to trying something new.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
In short, Munir was sacrificed.
Works now but where do you fit Suarez

How does that indicate that Munir was sacrificed? We attacked more down the left side so Alves/Munir didn't have as much dominance per say but Munir was involved in more attacking situations than anyone when he was on. 1 assist, a few bad offside calls, one should-be penal/poor decision to not pass to Neymar, and a few other minor-ish chances. He also had more touches than either Messi or Neymar by the end of the 1st half.

Positional maps like this don't always indicate specific tactical decisions, it's being overstated for this match. More of our defensive recoveries happened on the left side and therefore that side is where we started more moves--> Mathieu getting more touches than Alves and being more involved in attack. Also the reason why Munir's moments happened more selectively rather than him always being in a forward position like Neymar was.
 

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