Luis Enrique

Icarium

Lifestealer
Barca lost its identity. I don't know how we will get it back very soon. Forget this season maybe by next season we will have some plan. As long as we don't have any big embarrassments i am fine with another trophy less season. Transition is never easy, it takes time. Not many clubs have era after era.
 

CuleLife4Life

Active member
If we had a coach like LVG for example, I would be ok with what we're going through because Van Gaal knows how to work with what he has. Thats why I don't think what Man Utd is going through will be permanent.

I'll have to find it, but I saw an article today with the president of Bayern saying that Van Gaal is a big reason why Bayern are at where they are right now. He wasn't trying to diss Pep or Jupp but acknowledging that Van Gaal instilled a lot of Bayern's philosophy and shaped the team to become what they became today.

With Lucho, its the opposite. What exactly has he done to have been given the job as manager of Barca? I'm not giving up on him just yet but I find it hard to believe he'll become some type of tactical genius in the next couple of months.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
If we had a coach like LVG for example, I would be ok with what we're going through because Van Gaal knows how to work with what he has. Thats why I don't think what Man Utd is going through will be permanent.

I'll have to find it, but I saw an article today with the president of Bayern saying that Van Gaal is a big reason why Bayern are at where they are right now. He wasn't trying to diss Pep or Jupp but acknowledging that Van Gaal instilled a lot of Bayern's philosophy and shaped the team to become what they became today.

With Lucho, its the opposite. What exactly has he done to have been given the job as manager of Barca? I'm not giving up on him just yet but I find it hard to believe he'll become some type of tactical genius in the next couple of months.

In that aspect it's also worrying that Lucho's Barcelona is very different from Barca B, Juvenil A, Juvenil B and so on.
 

Alarcón

New member
In that aspect it's also worrying that Lucho's Barcelona is very different from Barca B, Juvenil A, Juvenil B and so on.

Juvenil A is playing some of the worst football right now, Vinyals team has been very dependant on individuals for years now, last year's side that won the UYL played nothing like Barça youth teams usually do
 

Chainsaw

Killahead
Don't worry guys, the true mastermind will take over next season :xavi:

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serghei

Senior Member
Barca lost its identity. I don't know how we will get it back very soon. Forget this season maybe by next season we will have some plan. As long as we don't have any big embarrassments i am fine with another trophy less season. Transition is never easy, it takes time. Not many clubs have era after era.

I am too. Madrid took 7 years, 1 bi. euros, and several beatdowns from us to build a new strong team.
 

Devils

Senior Member
If this season fails (i.e. we don't win either Liga or CL) then I wouldn't risk putting Lucho in charge for another season. Only because he has literally NO credentials at all to back-up why we should keep faith in him. He really doesn't come off as someone like Jupp, who can turn a struggling team into a treble winning machine.

My problem with Lucho stems from the fact that there is absolutely no vision in place for this team, it isn't even evident what Lucho is trying to do tactically. Whatever he is trying to do it definitely isn't clear and it isn't working so far.

If we lose to Ajax, we are in serious, serious trouble.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Lucho will stay until a new board is elected. New boards usually come with a new team (president - sporting director - coach etc.).
 

Cruijffista

SOY ANTIMADRIDISTA
It's not exactly Lucho's fault, he can't make Alves play any better but he can certainly bench him and his worthless crossing. Rakitic is playing on the flanks constantly because he has to babysit him the whole damn game. If you can't trust Alves enough without having a personal babysitter, it's either time to go with Montoya, try to convert Pedro into a RB, or do something. SOMETHING needs to be done, Dani has really regressed.

It's November and Vermaelen is still in street clothes.
 

DonAK

President of FC Barcelona
It's not exactly Lucho's fault, he can't make Alves play any better but he can certainly bench him and his worthless crossing. Rakitic is playing on the flanks constantly because he has to babysit him the whole damn game. If you can't trust Alves enough without having a personal babysitter, it's either time to go with Montoya, try to convert Pedro into a RB, or do something. SOMETHING needs to be done, Dani has really regressed.

It's November and Vermaelen is still in street clothes.

Lucho got a lot of things to address right not, tactically and personell wise, but he sure as hell need to stop with his 'Midfield babysitting the width providing kami-kaze Alba and Alves at the same time'.

Right now he simply don't want his midfield to be involved in the build-up. He said it today himself, that it doesn't exactly matter if the midfield isn't involved as they are busy with their defensive work, occupying markers and all that, forcing them wide and leaving a massive gap in the middle.... which also isolates Busquets or whoever plays there and leaves them with tons of space to cover alone.

He either need to bring a change in the style of play completely to make that work or look forward to install the influence our midfield had back again(With the added aspects needed to make it work, like pressing, movement, link-up, he need to get the players to do that), and yeah, I would also appreciate if he lived up to his 'meritocracy' thing he promised earlier this season.

Bartra is not perfect or a demi-god and neither is Montoya, but is it seriously that difficult to play them even when their competition is doing badly? What's the use of them being there then, if the guys they are competing with are being given a full pass and the only way they'll get any playing time whatsoever is if a player has played way too much and need a bit of rest or when someone is injured or suspended.

Not saying he should keep up with his rotations in defence and all, he should find his preferred starting XI, but also make the changes needed and try out someone else if the players are not performing as they should. That will also make those players work harder to regain their place and stop perhaps a bit of complacency kicking in.

This Barcelona right now doesn't have a system. It's either a 50-50 of Lucho's ideas and Pep's ideas or relying completely on individual brilliance which will usually work against 9/10 teams except the better ones, that's where you'll get battered.
 
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jamrock

Senior Member
I said since the preseason, i didn't see anything in him to impress me, but everyone jumped to his defense, but like i said then I will give it time, and still will.
but like in the preseason and has it as been since pep left their is no real system, and barca as a team only ever does well, when their is a clean philosophy and system in place
 

gatsu

New member
He said it today himself, that it doesn't exactly matter if the midfield isn't involved as they are busy with their defensive work, occupying markers and all that, forcing them wide and leaving a massive gap in the middle.....

Source for this please,

I'm pretty shocked by this statement, since it is contradictory with Barça precepts.
 

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