Luis Enrique

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Van Gaal shit?

He returned Barca to their philosophy. Won 2 La Liga's. He gave birth to Puyol and Xavi. Heart and brain of our best years in history.
Rijkaard's Barca owe alot to Van Gaal's foundation. Same as Heycknes' Bayern does.

Yeah he was a strange fellow but Barca won trophies by playing attractive football.
 

Gnidrologist

Senior Member
He didn't give any ''births''. Xavi and Puyol weren't particularly ''promoted'' by Van Gal. Barca played attractive football ever since Cruiff, so obviously, he had no choice but to give in to that philosophy. Barca was absolutely dismantled by every other ''strongclub'' in Champion's League. They were owned by likes of Milan, MU and Bayern at the time and couldn't get out of their CL groups, because of loses to likes of Dynamo Kyiev. Have you forgotten 0:4 against Dynamo in Camp Nou? People really forget their past quickly, when ''golden ages'' like 2009-11 happen.

edit: and i didn't say van gal = shit, you strawmaning ****
 
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FC B

Senior Member
Van Gaal shit?

He returned Barca to their philosophy. Won 2 La Liga's. He gave birth to Puyol and Xavi. Heart and brain of our best years in history.
Rijkaard's Barca owe alot to Van Gaal's foundation. Same as Heycknes' Bayern does.

Yeah he was a strange fellow but Barca won trophies by playing attractive football.

Agreed !

That was the time when I became a Barcelona life long supporter. LVG era was vital to what Barca was to became later imo.
 

FC B

Senior Member
I'd personally pay from my own wallet to see this guy and this ultra stupid board go away though I'm big enough not to entirely believe in Santa :beer2:
 

hamad138

Banned
The more i look at current Barca the more it looks like what it was under Van Gaal. A lot of talented players, who would objectively ought to bring good results, but zilch. And i can't fathom if the players or coach are at fault. Van Gaal was shit at Barca even though he had all the freedom and talent he could get. Now the same thing. It just seems that there are some magical combinations of coaches and players that simply work and some other that do not, regardless of quality of either.

I want to know more about van gaal barca. Was they really that bad?
 

Chong Li

New member
Gets agitated when asked by journalists about not using Adama enough.

Pussy.

Classless.

Not suited for a big club like Barca.
 

Ritchie

New member
Barca need a proper coach and proven winner of top titles, or we'll be trailing Madrid for years and if he even stays Messi's prime will be wasted.

I'd rather have Simeone or Mourinho and put up with their football than suffer any more of this crap from rubbish coaches like Lucho and Tata.

Should have appointed Pellegrini or Ancelotti after Tito had to step down. Appointed Tata was ridiculous.
 

mssarm

Member
Barca need a proper coach and proven winner of top titles, or we'll be trailing Madrid for years and if he even stays Messi's prime will be wasted.

I'd rather have Simeone or Mourinho and put up with their football than suffer any more of this crap from rubbish coaches like Lucho and Tata.

Should have appointed Pellegrini or Ancelotti after Tito had to step down. Appointed Tata was ridiculous.

Mourinho for Barca coach? Really? Do you even remember how Real imploded during Mourinho years. Maybe Mourinho will poke Ancelotti's eye and will help Barca to overcome Real Madrid. Perhaps you don't remember how Real Madrid got beat up by second division team under Pellegrini. Look how City is doing now under Pellegrini, with their unlimited resources.and Simone is probably better off coaching Chicago Bulls than Barcelona. Last, but not least:let's just drop that Prime Years argument once and for all. Last year people were whining about wasting Iniesta's prime years and look where's Iniesta now for Barca and NT.
 
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Ritchie

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Mourinho for Barca coach? Really? Do you even remember how Real imploded during Mourinho years. Maybe Mourinho will poke Ancelotti's eye and will help Barca to overcome Real Madrid. Perhaps you don't remember how Real Madrid got beat up by second division team under Pellegrini. Look how City is doing now under Pellegrini, with their unlimited resources.and Simone is probably better off coaching Chicago Bulls than Barcelona. Last, but not least:let's just drop that Prime Years argument once and for all. Last year people were whining about wasting Iniesta's prime years and look where's Iniesta now for Barca and NT.

How many points did Pellegrini get that season? A then record and lost out to Barca's best ever side while having to contend with dissent from the likes of Raul and Guti who he had the job of having to faze out and Ronaldo having the longest injury of his career. Maybe not one of the elite coaches but a damn site better than Lucho.

I wouldn't want Mourinho either but i'd prefer it to where we are now. Ditto Simeone.

Barca are horrible to watch a lot of the time. The away games are painful, watching slow, methodical football struggle to break down a packed defence. Mourinho holds the record for number of goals scored in a season in Spain, which will probably get bettered this season by Ancelotti.

We don't want another decade in the wilderness appointing two bob coaches like Tata and Lucho who won't win anything.
 
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rixxer

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http://www.espnfc.com/club/barcelona/83/blog/post/2202386/la-liga-luis-enriques-barcelona-built-on-strikersnot-the-midfielders-of-pep-guardiolas-era If you read carefully it actually does not justifiy or bash Lucho but simply states that he is trying to make necessary (?) changes that are son inevitable considering how Barca did last season and how there is not possible to ignore the fact that football is ever evolving. I agree there can be and even must be a debate about the necessity of the changes and how changes are implemented, but I strongly support the notion that even a decrease of 10 per cent from the heights of Pep's Barca actually forces Barca to regroup. In that sense i think this article is spot on.

But it is easier to bash and brush with one liners, and labe eveyrthing Lucho does to s***t.
P.S Even a player who rebels behind his manager's back can be justified in this forum because...it is Lucho he bashes (and it really does not matter here was this story true or not). Ridiculous, really.
 

hamad138

Banned
If barca 2011 would play now, they would be equally bad.
Everybody knows how we play, that is the Problem....


And the most annoying about this philosophy is: we dont finish counter attack , we slow down rather than complete the counter,which makes no sense at all.
 
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Andrew M

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If barca 2011 would play now, they would be equally bad.
Everybody knows how we play, that is the Problem....



And the most annoying about this philosophy is: we dont finish counter attack , we slow down rather than complete the counter,which makes no sense at all.


That is such bollocks. Lower your head in shame:banghead:
 

hamad138

Banned
That is such bollocks. Lower your head in shame:banghead:

That is my opinion, teams already have figured out how we play. Ok maybe not equally bad, but no world beater for sure

Ancelotti real still would beat us, because they know how we play.

Atleast Enrique is trying to change that, atleast this credit he should get
 
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raskolnikov

Well-known member
If we actually played tiki taka it wouldnt be a problem, but if we lack the pressing/players to do it and are a shadow of our former self it would be foolish to continue with the same tactics. I prefer to throw some counters into the mix, especially in those away games to open things up.
 

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